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Thread: Lee Loader in 244 Rem

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    Boolit Master
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    Lee Loader in 244 Rem

    Found a strange one.
    Old Lee Loader in 244 Rem.
    Was this a standard one, in years past????
    Missing the dipper, but there is a shell holder.
    Not sure what it goes to.
    Lyman nut cracker?????
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    Lee used to have a hand primer tool that used that shell holder, nothing to do with Lyman 310 or etc.

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    244 rem = 6mm rem. both are 7mm mauser necked down to 6mm.
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    That shell holder goes with Lee's excellent little case trimmers.

    The only real short comings with that "Lee Loader" kit (and Lyman's 310 tools) is they are slow to use and they only neck size the cases but that's not nearly as limiting as many web gurus say.

    The common saying, "Neck sizing limits us to only using cases that have been fired in that gun" is basically nonsense. Like everything else men make, chambers have a range of manufacturing tolerances. Thus, everyone can neck size and easily use cases fired in any chamber that's the same size or smaller than their own.

    I've owned a .243 Win. since the early 70s; I love it but white tails, groundhogs and crows hate it. (Been thinking I may ask my family to have it buried with me be just in case we can take something with us!) But I wish it was a .244 Rem. because that's a (slightly) better cartridge.

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    Remington brought out the 244 to compete with Winchester's 243 and was intended for 85-90 gr. bullets. The barrel twist of the 244 was too slow to stabilize 100 gr. bullets that hunters liked to use. So they re-branded it to 6mm Rem and made rifles with a faster twist barrel. But the damage was already done and it died out. The 243 remains king today.

    That shell holder looks like it's from an old RCBS case trimming set up. Lee doesn't make that style of holder.

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    The .244/6mm Remington rifle were a disaster for Remington. As stated already, Remington viewed the rifle mostly as a varmint or smaller game rifle and the twist rate reflected that. They changed after getting shellacked in the market place by Winchester's round but the damage was done and the 6mm/.244 faded out of the picture. I consider the 6mm/.244 to be a slightly superior round to the .243 when the twist rate and other parameters were the same for the 2 rifles. Once you poison the well, there is usually no getting the public to go back for a drink.

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    That sure looks like a Lee shell holder to me. I have a bunch that look like it. They work with Lee's hand trimmer. That shell holder screws onto a lock stud. It holds the case. The trimmer is a cutter that a pilot threads into. The pilot is the right length so the pin goes through the prime flash hole and hit the lock stud. This controls the cutting so you can't cut to short.
    Being that it's with the Lee loader it is more likely to be a Lee.
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