I have been eyeballing this little gem for a number of months now. A side folding, non NFA 9mm sub gun for under $800. And it comes with three 30 rd mags. It has been built from the ground up as a dedicated sub gun, and is engineered for full auto hard use. Running subsonic 147 gr Lyman pills suppressed should be super quiet. My big question that nobody seems to have insight on is whether they will run cast well. More than anything if the chamber and throat are very tight. If I jump on one and find it doesn't like cast, I will be very, very upset.