i enjoyed dr savage books as well
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i enjoyed dr savage books as well
Check out the regulations with your HOA, township, or other controlling groups. Some have laws on burning / smoke and may limit them to certain times of the year or with a permit only. Melting lead while legal to do may be regulated in some areas under other regulations. Checking before hand may save headaches later. Depending on where you live and the area any for of molten metal may be looked on as a hazard.
Working inside a garage with the door open shields from view and may remove the open burning laws restrictions but the neighboor that complains about smoke will be listened too. Smelting lead down should be fine to do but ..........
Its a good thing to try and stay on even terms with neighbors and the various groups. One thing to also add is a working surface under the equipment so spills and such cant get to ground. A metal bucket for dross and clips. a surface for ingots Have a fire extinguisher close by. Be able to show your working in sage manner.
As said above If you are close my equipment and company would be available to you for use to help you out.
We have Doc Savage here now we need Monk & Ham !Originally Posted by robg
Wow, lots of responses in such little time.
A few things. Grills were mentioned. Would it work that I just take my old grill and crank it up and put the lid down and wait for the lead to melt? If so, I imagine I then pick out the clips with an old spoon and then pour into my ingot mould? Also, how much protection do I need? Just leather gloves, gloves and some sort of leather sleeves, all of the aforementioned plus a leather apron, helmet? I wanted to get said supplies in order to blacksmith, but again, the subdivision problem...
My back yard is the worst in that it has a house directly behind it. I have trees planted, and they provide some shielding, but they are as old as the house is, or slightly younger, this being 8 years.
My garage has a 1917 Maxwell in it. I really don't want to have a problem and end up with "tinsel" on it, or worse yet, on my wife's car.
It sort of serves me right the predicament I'm in. My wife wanted a new house (I did not), and new houses, "pound for pound" were expensive. My wife grew up in a bunch of new houses, as her father liked them, and he came over here when it was being built and said "it's a bargain". I thought he might buy it outright for us. Didn't happen. At least I can sell it and get out from under it if I want to, but buying something with land is a bit more costly than what this place might bring. Or, if less, it needs a ton of work.
Right on! Should tell them when the Crud hits the fan don't come begging for protection.
PPE is really according to your comfort level as I do plenty of bare hand casting but do have padded leather welding gauntlets for hot work too. I do wear a leather apron myself but I do that with any work I do from lathe work (wood and metal) to welding, grinding, reloading or casting.
The one thing I do recommend above all is NO SYNTHETICS, shirts, pants, shoes... Cotton is amazing! Leather is even better.
Yes, cowboy charcoal under the ash catcher and all around the pot, fill with lead and light it up, check from time to time, skim, flux, pour ingots.
I stole a spoon from my wife long ago and turned a wooden handle (long and skinny), ground the spoon handle down some and epoxied the spoon into the wood handle. 30 years or so, still working.
If your schedule allows, smelt during the middle of a weekday. Burn off the smoke when you add flux, which should be easily done with one of those long-snout fireplace lighters that allow you to keep a flame in the smoke; if you light it with a normal match the smoke flame will eventually go out and you won't be able to quickly relight it. If you or your neighbors have bushes around your lot, might help to wait till they leaf out. I also tried to smelt when the temperature (hot or cold) would dictate that the neighbors would have their windows closed. Also consider breeze direct if that might save some grief.
Socialism at it's best--my lovely subdivision!
Having said that, maybe someone with much more experience than I can determine what I can and cannot do.
I have a document entitled "Declaration of Protective Covenants". One part states the following: "NUISANCES: No noxious or offensive activity shall be carried on upon the Property, nor shall anything be done thereon which may be or may become an annoyance or nuisance in the neighborhood. No trash, garbage, metal, scrap or other waste may be placed or stored upon the Property, except in approved sanitary containers which may be placed outside only on scheduled collection days."
Now, is it perhaps this was in effect when homes were being sold and the builder did not want to give the appearance of anything that is not top notch? Who can enforce this, or is it even enforceable, if there is NO Home Owner's Association??? I only agreed to live here because there was no HOA, as awful as everything else is.
In any event, I leave my trash container in front of the garage and only roll it down to the road on trash day, and no one ever says anything. I did not even know this was in violation of anything. I guess I cannot urinate in the driveway anymore, LOL! That is probably noxious, but can be done discretely between vehicles or even in some bushes if no one is around... But I digress...
As I read further...and all homes have been sold out over here at a minimum of 5 years... "ENFORCEMENT: This Declaration shall be for the benefit of and may be enforced by each lot owner and homeowner within the Property. In addition, Grantor shall have the right but not the obligation, to enforce the provisions of this Declaration until such time that the Grantor has conveyed and transferred title to the last home in the community, at which time Grantor shall no longer have the right nor the obligation to enforce the provisions of this Declaration..."
So, it seems like I can do whatever I want to...but yet there are easements in this Declaration, and I don't see how that can be null and void. I cannot dig thorough an underground cable in order to install a swimming pool, for example.
But then, last paragraph "TERM: This Declaration and the covenants, restrictions, and agreements set forth herein shall run with the land and shall be binding upon each lot owner and such lot owner's successors and assigns, subject to the right of said owners to modify or terminate this Declaration in whole or part by agreement in writing of the owner's of at least 60% of the then current lot owners; provided, however, this Declaration may not be terminated or modified by said lot owners in any manner whatsoever until two years after the last home to be built on the Property by Grantor has been settled; and provided further, that the covenants, agreements and restrictions listed in the paragraph EASEMENTS and SIGHT DISTANCE AT INTERSECTION may not be modified or terminated without the consent of the Township."
SO, is anything still in effect, other than that which cannot be changed without the consent of the Township? Or is all of it in effect? If so, without a Homeowner's Association, who is there to enforce it?
STILL this does not solve the prying neighbors and their questions, just making fishing lures sounds good. Maybe I'll just be grilling.
This lot has no privacy, all the damn kids just run through my lot, parents even don't respect my boundary lines either.
Makes me want to put a "For Sale" sign in the yard, but my wife would protest.
My schedule is AWFUL, in fact the biggest drawback is not having weekday mornings free. Maybe when I burn leave at the end of the year. My awful schedule and no flexibility makes me really want to retire as soon as possible, but I have a minimum of just over 9 years left.
Based on the enforcement section, it sounds like anybody that didn’t like it could take you to court to make you stop.
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Now that I re-read this, this is probably correct. But do courts even bother with such petty matters as these?
Yes, best I do this in the morning of a weekday when all these folks are running late for work and they race through the neighborhood in their BMW's, where their least concern is noxious odors.
I don't know how it works where you are but where I live the covenants are attached to the lot so more or less become like law but the HOA is who enforces them for most infringements .The only option they have besides being annoying Is to put a lean on the property and suspend your voting rights in HOA decisions until the problem is corrected a lean if not removed would be dealt with when the property sells . That is here , and the same in several subdivisions I have built on in this area.
So not a whole lot they can do .
But I want to be considerate of other people and pick a time to smelt when it is least likely to bother anyone .
My quantities are small at the most a 5 gal bucket at a time I have had no complaints and am glad I would like to get along with my neighbors but I am going to pursue my hobby .
If you can build a garden shed that is another option you might have . I have a shed on my list for this year that will be used for storage and casting.
Have to check about the covenants. We have some here and they are enforced by the city code people. And they do enforce them, especially if someone complains about it.
It is up to you to not 'stink up' the neighborhood.
FWIW, most of the stink from cooking up wheel weights is the oil, rubber and grease that is on them. I used to wash them first, then melt. As stated above, I would suggest using wood sawdust as a flux. The smell is just like a fireplace.
... or don't smelt. I put range scrap into the pot, scrape off the jackets, and ladle pour - avoiding the industrial-sized headaches.
I flux my WWs with powdered charcoal, lard and hickory chips.
Neighbors think I am smoking BBQ.
The ENEMY is listening.
HE wants to know what YOU know.
Keep it to yourself.
It's your place I'd do what I wanted. That said when you move (and you will) never ever, ever buy in an HOA community.
If you are anywhere close to KCMO, you are welcome to bring your lead over . I have everything else to smelt with.
BAD idea to buy in a neighborhood, even worse in one with an HOA.
I DEFINITELY DO NOT have an HOA, which tells me most of this document is bunk and cannot be enforced???
Now that's optimism!!!
No, sorry, I'm in southeastern Pennsylvania.
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