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    This was also posted over at MarlinOwners last week. IIRC the receiver was made in 1981, so it's likely someones steampunk attempt at something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M-Tecs View Post
    I don't remember if it was JMB, Garand or someone else but I do remember reading about one of them using a lever gun as a concept design platform for testing.
    John Browning first machine gun was a modified levergun,

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    And the Bang was a Scandinavian design that used a gas trap at the muzzle. Not real sturdy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kens View Post
    John Browning first machine gun was a modified levergun,
    Mr. Browning was a gun building genius, whoever destroyed that 336, not so much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FLINTNFIRE View Post
    https://www.browning.com/news/articl...odel-1873.html go see for yourself looks like it has sideplates not a 92
    Thanks for that link. I have seen a picture of one he did on a 92 and I thought that was the prototype. Thanks for the correction!

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    Texas by god , I to thought it was a 92 till I googled , I also was surprised that it had sideplates after your post I had to go back and look again to make sure I had seen it right . here is a photo of my fathers he has on my wall of a JMB firearm Click image for larger version. 

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    Flintnfire, I clicked on your photo of the BAR, and noticed the chicken wire. Was that your father's photo from Korea?

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    Yes it is have a few of him over there 50-51 , good eyes Gewehr-Guy most miss the wire and what kind of rifle let alone where it was at.

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    Not first self loading machine gun, Maxim did that 1884. Good proof of idea though. Dreyse invented the rotating bolt and thru bolt FP.
    Who knows the purpose of the butchered 336.
    Whatever!

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    Maybe it was built as a "trap gun" that was mounted with a trip wire (or string) to the trigger to shoot something or someone encroaching somewhere they shouldn't have been.

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    if i'm not mistaken i think it was bill ruger who took a savage 99 and converted it to a semi. maybe someone has more info on the subject.

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    Quote Originally Posted by a danl View Post
    if i'm not mistaken i think it was bill ruger who took a savage 99 and converted it to a semi. maybe someone has more info on the subject.

    Look at post #4 in this thread.



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    I think the rifle you are all talking about was the predecessor to the "potato digger" machine gun used in WW1.
    It was one of Brownings inventions.

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    Maxim actually manufactured and sold his modified 1873 Winchesters to the Ottomans ,dont know how many ,but certainly enough for a test.And he also patented every possible way of making a gun work automatically ,including Brownings efforts....Which is why the Colt Browning gun could not be sold outside the US before 1904,when the Maxim patents expired.

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    If my memory is working correctly Mr. Browning used this basic idea to make the Browning "Potato Digger" automatic feed that Colt bought and developed into that wonder our troops took to Cuba.
    Next time you watch "Rough Riders" they had at least two in the Regiment.
    I am thinking NRA had an article about the Automatic in the Rifleman Magazine about 15 years back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by john.k View Post
    Maxim actually manufactured and sold his modified 1873 Winchesters to the Ottomans ,dont know how many ,but certainly enough for a test.And he also patented every possible way of making a gun work automatically ,including Brownings efforts....Which is why the Colt Browning gun could not be sold outside the US before 1904,when the Maxim patents expired.
    Yup. Maxim's 1st patent for an auto loader was based a Winchester lever action. The recoil mechanism was in the butt stock attached to the butt plate. But there were a few that weren't covered under any of Maxim's patents. Madsen, Schwarzlose and the inertia unlock locking. The Madsen method was patented about the same time as Maxim's and the Schwarzlose was done purely to get around all patented methods.

    Also, kudo's to the kid you did the Marlin in more recent history.

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