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Thread: An auto-loading lever action rifle ???

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    An auto-loading lever action rifle ???

    I was browsing around on Gun Broker, and a "Demilled Gas Operated Marlin 336 30-30" showed up. I thought I have about seen it all, but this baby takes the cake. If someone can post a picture of this abomination, I'm sure everyone will find it interesting.

    It is kind of a hybrid of John Browning's gas operated '73 Winchester and a gas trap M-1, but made by a 15 year old in the farm's blacksmith shop!

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    I saw that, thought that if it worked it was probably fired just once since it would have broken most of the shooters fingers.

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    Sounds like something Bubba created after a few beers on the picnic table.

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    Several of the early machine guns were gas trap models in one form or another. Most of the modern day gas operated rifle are just modified gas traps in one form or another. Whether simple direct impingement on a flapper(like the early guns), gas impingement on an operating rod(like the M1 Garand) or a shorter impingement on M16, they are all similar. You bleed gas off and use the energy to operate the recoil/feed system of the rifle/shotgun. I would like to see how that young man made his operate, would be interesting. james

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    I don't remember if it was JMB, Garand or someone else but I do remember reading about one of them using a lever gun as a concept design platform for testing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by M-Tecs View Post
    I don't remember if it was JMB, Garand or someone else but I do remember reading about one of them using a lever gun as a concept design platform for testing.
    It was Bill Ruger who made his bones that way, using a Savage 99 for a base.

    https://www.americanrifleman.org/art...e-first-ruger/




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    I was not aware of that one. The one I am referring to was on a Win 92 or a 94. It had exposed linkage under the barrel and going back to the lever.
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    https://www.gunbroker.com/item/859244777

    It would almost be worth the price just to hang that on the wall to look at. Wowee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GL49 View Post
    https://www.gunbroker.com/item/859244777

    It would almost be worth the price just to hang that on the wall to look at. Wowee.



    I thought AR-15's were ugly, that thing has them beat hands down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GL49 View Post
    https://www.gunbroker.com/item/859244777

    It would almost be worth the price just to hang that on the wall to look at. Wowee.
    You buy and shoot it and I’ll video. Then I’ll drive you to the hospital because it is more than likely going to break a few fingers lol.


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    Think Hatchers book of the Garand shows some of the earlier designs for semi automatic military firearms that he was up against. And if my remaining 3 brain cells are still working there was one called the Bang which was a sort of gas trap design. But they all had to function with full powered 30-06 ammunition of which there were literally tons of the stuff after WWI. And McArthur didn't want another caliber in the supply chain. Frank

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    Look up john moses browning flapper model 1873 long before bill ruger

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    Quote Originally Posted by FLINTNFIRE View Post
    Look up john moses browning flapper model 1873 long before bill ruger
    That's the one was thinking about but couldn't remember who did it. Thanks.

    https://www.browning.com/news/articl...odel-1873.html

    https://www.standard.net/entertainme...7ecded798.html
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    Browning’s muzzle flap auto lever action was built on HIS baby- the 1892 Winchester. Ruger’s 99 is neater.

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    https://www.browning.com/news/articl...odel-1873.html go see for yourself looks like it has sideplates not a 92

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    Looks like he was using it as a shovel and a few other implements.

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    "Hey ya'll watch this" he hollered as the finger lever amputated his trigger finger.

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    Someone thought it was worth $300. I'm also sure that if the buyer gives it a go, that will be followed by a trip to the emergency room and a hand splint.
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    After studying this novel design, I have come to the conclusion that the rate of fire is determined by the length of the screen door spring, which must be housed in the lower portion of the buttstock, which returns the action to full battery. The rate of fire is adjustable, depending on rate at which the operator's fingers get mangled or cut off........

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