down load 4 grand kids

[XWrench3]

so, the grand kids have been shooting .22's for a while now. but i would like to kick them into the center fire category. i have a Marlin 336, that i bought the "youth" plastic stock set for. i plan on using cast 100g lee rn boolits ( https://leeprecision.com/mold-dc-311-100-2r.html ). and i want to start real low, and gradually bring them up from there. i have several pistol powders i could use, but i can't help thinking about trail boss. is it possible to download trail boss using filler (Dacron poly fill) to take up the space. i WILL be testing them out before letting the youngsters shoot them, just for safety sake. if not, i will just go with the pistol powders i have. my plan is to nudge them up over the next 2 years, to be able to hunt in the youth hunt our state has.

[Dusty Bannister]

With the usual fast pistol powders you do not need any filler. You are going to be working a lot to keep them in bullets with a 2 cav mold so I would suggest you not add to the task with a filler you do not need. Have fun with the kids.

[swheeler]

I wouldn't use dacron as a filler in bottle necked rifle cases with any powder faster than say Alliant 2400, SR4759 speed. I would NEVER use a dacron filler with Traiboss. There was someone on here using dacron with Unique, don't know if he messed up a rifle or not but he was warned and continued. Taking one of the fast shotgun/pistol powders and stuffing dacron of it has to make the new burn speed akin to det cord!

[XWrench3]

'' Taking one of the fast shotgun/pistol powders and stuffing dacron of it has to make the new burn speed akin to det cord! ''

REALLY! yikes, glad i asked! so i will just use the pistol powder. can't be taking chances with the kids!

[Markopolo]

how about Red dot??? great way to edge up... blue dot is even better for low recoil.. imagine that.. blue dot is a killer for recoil with heavy loads in 12g, but for low recoil loads you should check out seafire's Blue dot work in rifles. 13 grains of BD in a 30-30 will give you around 1500 fps with around 150g boolit, and the recoil is really nice with that Marlin.

hope that helps.

[bmortell]

just look at the mouse fart thread, I think its called maouse farts for 30-06 but theres info for other 30 cals too. normally around 3gr bullseye or similar and drilled flash holes so the primer don't back out

[Larry Gibson]

Assuming the Marlin is a 30-30?

Lightly lube the Lee bullets and size .311 or shoot "as cast' if .311 or smaller. A very light coat of LLA is all that is needed. Let it thoroughly dry before loading. Simply load over 2.7 - 3.0 gr Bullseye. No filler or wad needed. I use that load over a 90 gr SWC in mine but have used it over your Lee bullet also. It is an excellent load and very accurate at 800+ fps. Little to no recoil and little muzzle blast. The kids will love it......so will you......

[ShooterAZ]

+1 on the load Larry recommended. In the 30-30, I use the same Lee TL314-90 SWC (sized to .311) 2.7 gr Bullseye load as well. It also works great in the 308W and 30-06 with 3.2 gr Bullseye. I size it to .314 for the Mosin Nagant.

[Drew P]

Downloading always reminds me of reading about the dreaded SEE but I can’t remember if that risk exists when using pistol powders?

[bmortell]

I think that's more with using slow powders in lower amounts where its sketchy on lighting or not.