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    Question Mounting a powder measure on a separate stand

    I am not sure which would be the best and/or proper forum to discuss this or to look for help or suggestions?
    If this is not the proper forum, could someone guide me to the correct forum.

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    I mount mine ( SAECO with stand) on an 8' square of plywood and use
    "C" clamps to attach it, when needed, to the bench.

    http://castboolits.gunloads.com/show...Powder-Measure

    What measure are you planning to use??

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    My RCBS has been on an RCBS stand for over 40 years and, bolted to my bench. Works just fine.
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    My factory powder measure stands didn't stick out far enough from the bench
    to get more than 2 rows of a MTM plastic loading block under it.

    I took a length of 2" flat bar stock, bent it into a 'Z' and bolted it to the table top.
    Its higher and reaches out farther so I can charge all 5 rows of cases on the 50 round loading block.
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    Hi, TY for replying.
    I have a Lyman Stand & RCBS Stand. I have 2 different powder measure.
    1st one is the Lee Rotary Drum measure. 2nd one is a Lee Auto Pro Disk.
    I think they are supposed to be case activate while mounted on the Lee Classic Turret.

    But I would prefer to mount them on the stands rather then the press. I am just not sure if I need some other type of part to add to the measures to accomplish this.
    SharuLady

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    Not familiar with those 2 measures, Some use a shelf edge for off press mounting, a small c clamp on the back some use 2 screws to hold it tight to the shelf. Here would be the lymann 55, Belding and mulls, Harrels and some Redding measures that come to mind. Some use a threaded stem usually a 7/8 14 and lock ring to mount, These are the RCBS uniflow, Little dandy, there is a nose conversion for the 55s, the newer redding bench rests br 30s and others. Also the Dillon measure is a thread mount screwing into the expander die.
    The issue with off press mounting of the auto disks or dillions is operating the measure do to the spring tension used with them.
    A very nice stand can be made easily with hand tools and common materials.

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    It looks, to me, that you would need this "powder measure riser"
    https://leeprecision.com/auto-disk-riser.html
    and then you could mount either measure into either of the stands you have.
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    I attach my Lyman 55 on the edge of the bench where I can reach all the holes in any loading block. A bench mounted RCBS on its stand is a tight fit with narrow loading blocks, doesn't reach with wider ones. The Lee stand only works for one row, or did until I bent the legs that mount to the bench and measure, now works with narrow loading blocks.

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    Mostly, I use the Lee turret and pro auto-disk mounted to the Turret.
    But for pouring powder for small batches of Rifle ammo, I have a Herters powder measure with a DIY bracket that I clamp onto the edge of the bench during use...stores nicely on shelf when not in use.

    PS, I moved your thread to a better section.
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    I have a 4' long shelf mounted over one of my loading benches that is just below eye level. I keep spare die sets and other tools that I use frequently on it, and it has the following powder measures mounted on it, from left to right: a Hornady, a Belding & Mull, a Redding, another Redding, and finally on the right end, a Hollywood. I also have a Hornady mounted on my LnL.

    I find the shelf mounting just about right, and filling a whole loading block of cases is easy this way.

    Hope this helps.

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    I tend not to use loading blocks in that fashion for either rifle or pistol. As I’m right handed primed cases cross from left to right from the original box, under the powder measure (or hand measured) and into the loading tray for a final flashlight QA check. Seems to eliminate the chances of a squib or double charge. So no need to raise the measure any higher than the OEM stands

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    Your lee case activated measures will need some modifications to work off the press do you have a plan to convert them for off press use? I think some of the folks here have done that but I use mine on the press.

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    I had these mounted one behind the other, w/ the one in-back mounted on a block so it was raised. The mounts are Lyman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winger Ed. View Post
    My factory powder measure stands didn't stick out far enough from the bench
    to get more than 2 rows of a MTM plastic loading block under it.

    I took a length of 2" flat bar stock, bent it into a 'Z' and bolted it to the table top.
    Its higher and reaches out farther so I can charge all 5 rows of cases on the 50 round loading block.
    I’ve been thinking about doing the same thing for my Lyman 55. More to get it up closer to eye level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onelight View Post
    Your lee case activated measures will need some modifications to work off the press do you have a plan to convert them for off press use? I think some of the folks here have done that but I use mine on the press.
    You state my powder measures will need some modifications to work. What type of modifications will be needed? Could you be so kind as to explain this, as I haven't heard or read anything on this. I know I will probably have to get 1 more riser for the 2nd powder measure. What else might or would be needed?

    TYIA, SharuLady

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    Hi, TY for one and all for the reply's and info. I do appreciate it!

    SharuLady

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    Quote Originally Posted by SharuLady View Post
    You state my powder measures will need some modifications to work. What type of modifications will be needed? Could you be so kind as to explain this, as I haven't heard or read anything on this. I know I will probably have to get 1 more riser for the 2nd powder measure. What else might or would be needed?

    TYIA, SharuLady
    I am sorry I don't know where I came up with the idea you were wanting to convert case activated powder measures to manual.
    Ignore my misplaced suggestion .
    Last edited by onelight; 02-17-2020 at 08:18 AM.

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    I often cringe when I see loading bench photos with almost random tool placements ... which is most of them. Mount your measure and other tools in such a way that you have a smooth work flow from measure-to-scale (and trickler) -to-loading tray and press.

    NOTE: Unless you're using a progressive press, mounting a powder measure on any press (or front edge of the bench) is only a little better than mounting it low on your bench's legs.

    Your measure lever/spout should be behind and about 6-7 inches to the press' left side (for right handers). Mount the measure so the spout is about a foot back from the front edge of the bench.

    Locate your scale, especially a beam scale, on an elevated shelf or box about 10 inches off the bench and just to the left of the measure. That way you can see everything easy and not have to twist, step or reach somewhere else to use anything. (Okay, digital scales can go flat on the bench well enough but not beams, that's much too low and clumsy for using them.)

    Set your measure/stand and scale back far enough from the bench front edge to leave space for your loading blocks to sit close to your press; 12-14 inches back is enough. Then you can hand place bullets on your charged cases before seating.

    These tool placements make the single stage (or turret) reloader's work flow as smooth as it can get.

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    I've gotten so I really like my through-the-die arrangement from Lyman... I can mount any of several different powder measures as I wish in the top of the die, and as I expand the case mouth of each piece of brass, I simply activate the powder throw and charge the case in the same step. I have one of these dies on my All American, but I also use one on a single stage press as well.

    Froggie

    PS If it seems I'm straying too far off-topic, remember I use it on a single stage press, so this is like a separate die stand when it's being used, I just get something else done at the same time "for free!"
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    I have used both of the OP measures on a turret press. I think the drum measure can be mounted on a stand easier than the auto disk. The auto disk is designed to be used with through the die type dispenser and gets opened by pressure from below against a spring.

    I use a Lee perfect powder measure mounted to a wood square with a couple of Babbitt ingots on it for weight. I can also set a small bread loaf pan of reject cast bullets on it for weight. No reason you couldn't do the same with the Lee auto drum.

    Lee makes a cheap bent sheet metal stand for the perfect powder measure. Or a nicer cast one. I will say I have considered using the drum from a stand but I find it as easy to use it on the turret press with the turret indexing rod removed. Makes it a single stage press and to do powder dispensing I just rotate the turret to powder dispenser and use it.

    Kudos to 1holes description of good bench layout. Worth reading more than once. May not be able to get that exact configuration on all benches or might have a different approach for some part of it but there is stuff there that is worth considering for any bench. I can attest that a beam scale at the wrong height (like on the bench top) is a PITA. Being harder to read well at a down angle and harder to work with than it would be up a little higher.
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