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    My 81 year old Mom had a knee done about 4 years ago. She walked to the car with a walker (wheelchair out the door of course) ditched the walker the next day. PT 3 times a week for a month, twice a week for a month which she called 'inconvenient.' She doesn't walk 3 miles every day like she used to so Dad walks with her to Walmart/Burger King/whatever place they want to go, and then Dad goes home for the car. When my brother and I are there one of us gets the car so Dad can stay with Mom. Sometimes, Mom walks home with Dad, depends on how she feels that due to other health issues, not her knee.

    Dad starts his Day (well, after Mom brings him breakfast in bed) watching the morning stock reports and Mom reads her Bible. After an hour or so, Dad hits the treadmill for 30 to 45 minutes. Blood pressure meds don't work for him, the treadmill does. And several walks a day are on his routine list, not bad for 80.

    Getting older and dealing with the usual maladies comes with the territory. Mom and Dad grew up down the street from each other, having known each other since they were 5. Farm kids, raised by farm kids, Mom's people having come from Texas, Dad's from Oklahoma, you know dust bowl refugees who ended up in Central California. All of my Grandparents lived into their 90s, except Mom's Dad, help got injured on the farm which resulted in a blood infection. I wished I could have known him better.

    The point of my little story here is having to wait another year for your surgery seems like a choice made with good intention and reason. You know you don't want to miss your summer there and will put up with the 'inconvenience' of a bum knee. Mom felt better the day after she had her knee done and wanted to do her own PT at home. Well, doctors and physical therapists don't like missing out on a 'billable hour,' just like attorneys. Enjoy your summer, I hope the shot helps, may God provide the strength and assurance that all will go well.
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    fcvan, thanks.

    Also, below is a more in depth update, I wasn't going to go into all these details (the hassle of typing it all out), but I was encouraged to do so, on my FB page, so I figured I'd cut n paste here too.
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    As I previously posted, I opted for surgery cancelation and a cortisone shot. BUT, my initial option from the Hospital was to postpone this surgery until June, (which would likely just be postponed again for obvious reasons.) I told them I was NOT willing to have this surgery during what is predicted to be the Peak of the flattened out curve of Covid-19. The Experts advising Gov Walz have predicted the peak, in Minnesota, of what will hopefully be a flattened out curve to be 14 weeks from now.

    Could you imagine catching Covid-19, even if I were to just have mild flu-like symptoms, while trying to recover from surgery and trying to do the PT, with occasional visits to the Hospital PT department...Do you think those visits would even happen?
    So my decision to get a shot, to tide me over until a farther in the future surgery date, was a NO BRAINER.

    Also, I prefer the recovery to be during a season that isn't Summer. I will pursue the surgery in 9 or 10 months, depending on many factors ...I also hope my attempt to lose more weight by then, will have some success. I started watching carb intake a month ago (because of this surgery), and while I only have seemingly lost a couple pounds, considering the lack my of activity due to MN Spring icy conditions and a untrustworthy knee, I probably would have gained 5 lbs in the last month without doing the no/low carb diet.

    As to my exact condition, this left knee is Arthritic, as well as, misalignment, as well as, torn cartilage, as well as areas of scar tissue & a floating chunk of bone above the knee cap from previous injuries. So I likely have some bone on bone areas as well. So I will obviously not procrastinate the surgery for any old reason.

    So now I'm 21 hours into the cortisone shot, a HUGE improvement, me knee feeling great, but is still clicking some. ...And yes, I know there is the pain numbing agent in that injection that lasts 1 to 2 days ...and the cortisone really doesn't take effect for one to 2 weeks.

    My many thanks to all of you who are concerned and have offered info and personal experience, as well as the many prayers.
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    Three weeks ago, I got a call from the Hospital Surgery Dept and the surgery is back on BABY !!!


    BTW, the cortisone shot I got in March didn't do jack squat after the first few days
    So I'm excited to get the surgery going again.

    In the last couple weeks, I've had 6 different appoints with PT, surgery staff, social worker, family Doctor for Pre Op physical, Nurse appts for a dozen Lab tests(two appts, because they forgot some at the first appt) ...and last but not least, Today I got a Covid19 test.

    Surgery is tomorrow morning, I need to be there at 4:45am that seems early.

    Wish me Luck, and pray for me
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    Quote Originally Posted by 6bg6ga View Post
    I had my left scoped almost two years ago and I'm starting to have trouble again. Was told by the specialist were going this route and see if it works before replacing the knee. Another way to get more money? Do it twice?
    For some people, scoping is all you really need. And every stinking one of us is different, so there is no way to tell except by doing it. I've been avoiding surgery on my knees for 45 years. For me, once it was finally available, the cockscomb extract was the magic bullet. Got those injections about 8 years ago, and except for some occasional twinges this past couple of years, been pain free in the knees. Hips were another story. I've had both of them replaced. First one at age 54, 7 months after having it scoped. Second at age 59. I'm 65 now. Back is a PITA, though. Literally and figuratively. Had nerves burned in my lower back late February and early March, and was good until April. Looks like we need to go up a couple of levels and burn some more.

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    Sorry for lack of updates, I am limiting my online time.

    The Surgery on Tuesday went well.
    I was standing and walking 2 hrs and 10 minutes after the last staple was installed...I'm lucky I don't have problems with General anesthesia.

    late tuesday afternoon, second visit with the PT person, he said I am way ahead of the curve, near 90º motion, he said.
    I was discharged on Wednesday afternoon.
    Thursday, I have to drive to Post-Opt Dr Appt, I got the A-ok.
    Today (friday morning 8 am), I have to drive to my first PT appt.
    All went well.
    PT lady asked me for my goals, I said riding bike.
    She said I am on track to be riding in 2 weeks, if I proceed as well as I have since I was in the hospital...Pretty happy where I am, since this is only Day 3 after surgery.
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    Great to read man!! Been following in the back ground. Glad to read your doing so well esp so quickly!!

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    Great news. Just keep going on the PT whether at home or somewhere else.

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    Day 4 Knee rehab: Opiates don't work for me.

    Yesterday, after PT, I decide to switch from OTC pain meds to the prescribed Oxycodone (since I didn't need to drive anywhere for 60 hours). I learned two things.

    One:
    Zero pain (which I achieved with the lowest dose) isn't the best thing for me to do rehab. Don't know when to stop, got increased bruising.

    Two:
    Oxycodone makes me feverish (and increased heart rate). Not a good thing when fever is a symptom of infection, which I need to be on the watch for. Also impossible to sleep well, especially in this sultry summer weather where I am running a AC and ceiling fan. BTW, the fever drops out at about hour 5 of the dose.
    So after the 3rd dose of Oxy wore off at 3am this morning, I returned to the alternating OTC regiment, which had been working pretty good for me. Then I slept well from 3am to 8am.
    I suppose I should make this disclaimer:

    I am still limiting my online time, which is typically a sedentary thing, which is bad for my rehab.
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    Jon, we like to know what you're doing but take care of yourself first. We can wait to hear about your progress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conditor22 View Post
    Jon, we like to know what you're doing but take care of yourself first. We can wait to hear about your progress.
    no worries, while previously, I have been known to be in front of the computer screen for many hours a day, currently I am limiting it to 30 minutes or two 30 minutes sessions per day.
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    I am having my rt knee replaced on Wednesday 7-1. Already had the left one done and 10 days afterwards, I was walking like a champ. First 4 or 5 days are tough but they get progressively better and after 2 weeks the staples come out and then only the incision itches due to healing. Get it done!
    the pain you are having is not getting you anywhere. I practiced for mine by getting both shoulders replaced and they a bolt and a nut in my spine, before the 1st knee. No sweat, just make sure that your surgeon does a c-t scan of your knee before surgery so that he/she can mate the prostheses to your bone. Work diligently in therapy but don't try to do more that they tell you in the begining. The exercise bike will be a real thrill until you make a full revolution!
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    Staples? Had both knees done, one in 2014 and 2015, four months apart. No staples and dissolving stitches. Super glue, too, I'm guessing. Had a waterproof, gel like bandage, removed after the first month's check up.

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    Had both mine done about 6 years ago (7 weeks apart). The rehab folks really knew their business and I followed all their suggestions to the letter and was soon walking around the neighborhood pretty much pain-free. But the first hunting season which came along about 4 months after the last surgery I was disappointed because I was really having to "grampaw" up and down the hills. Second hunting season was better but still doing the "grampaw" shuffle going downhill. But by third season I was up and down hills (and ladders) with no problem. That's one thing I didn't ever find out beforehand -- how you keep getting better and stronger for about 3 years until the dang things really get to be a part of you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by winelover View Post
    Staples? Had both knees done, one in 2014 and 2015, four months apart. No staples and dissolving stitches. Super glue, too, I'm guessing. Had a waterproof, gel like bandage, removed after the first month's check up.

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    Yep, my surgeon uses staples on the incision. They come out pretty easy once they are cut in the middle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrounge View Post
    For some people, scoping is all you really need. And every stinking one of us is different, so there is no way to tell except by doing it. I've been avoiding surgery on my knees for 45 years. For me, once it was finally available, the cockscomb extract was the magic bullet. Got those injections about 8 years ago, and except for some occasional twinges this past couple of years, been pain free in the knees. Hips were another story. I've had both of them replaced. First one at age 54, 7 months after having it scoped. Second at age 59. I'm 65 now. Back is a PITA, though. Literally and figuratively. Had nerves burned in my lower back late February and early March, and was good until April. Looks like we need to go up a couple of levels and burn some more.
    That's what I supposed to have done on March 19th. Dr. called me March 18th to give me the news of cancellation! They finally go back to me a few weeks ago to ask if I wanted to reschedule (which I haven't yet). I guess I better not wait too long, I'm 55 and keep debating whether this is is going to benefit me in the long run, or be debilitating. Also having issues with lower back pain (several epidurals).
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    Quote Originally Posted by JonB_in_Glencoe View Post
    no worries, while previously, I have been known to be in front of the computer screen for many hours a day, currently I am limiting it to 30 minutes or two 30 minutes sessions per day.
    Glad you doing better! Two 30 minute sessions is a lot better than what I do and is a good reminder to just not sit too long!
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    Quote Originally Posted by earlmck View Post
    Had both mine done about 6 years ago (7 weeks apart). The rehab folks really knew their business and I followed all their suggestions to the letter and was soon walking around the neighborhood pretty much pain-free. But the first hunting season which came along about 4 months after the last surgery I was disappointed because I was really having to "grampaw" up and down the hills. Second hunting season was better but still doing the "grampaw" shuffle going downhill. But by third season I was up and down hills (and ladders) with no problem. That's one thing I didn't ever find out beforehand -- how you keep getting better and stronger for about 3 years until the dang things really get to be a part of you.
    Not in my case. I had my done so I could hunt, out of tree stands. First replacement was done three days after gun season began. Turned out so well, decided to have the second one done, so I'd be fully ready for fall hunting. That's what happened, exactly........... was able to safely make it up and down my tree stands. My acreage is nowhere near flat.

    For those contemplating, get it done sooner than later. You'll be wondering why you put it off.

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    I just got out of surgery yesterday at 11:00 and the therapist had me walk about 300’ this morning. Pain is not bad, about 3 or 4 on the 10 scale. Going home this afternoon.
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