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    Quote Originally Posted by Tatume View Post
    It's because SAAMI specified rifle and handgun twist rates. Member companies must comply.
    If that is the case, then somebody needs to tell Henry and Ruger that they need to comply because their 44 mags/ spl barrels are 1:20
    IT AINT what ya shoot--its how ya shoot it. NONE of us are as smart as ALL of us!

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    I like new stuff as in completely different, out of a box, never seen that before type. Sometimes its good, sometimes its bad. Right now I would love to get my hands on the Alien from Laugo Arms. Not a design you will find anywhere else for sure. If its dependable I would get one just for the cool engineering factor.

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    Ruger decides that QUALITY is just as important (or more so) as QUANTITY!
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    Marlin does make a 44 cal barrel with a .429-.430 bore and 1 in 20" twist, but it's chambered for 444 Marlin. I sent Marlin customer service an e-mail asking for a similar barrel that would fit my 1894 so I could shoot the Lee 305gr cast bullet with the slightly concave wide nose in my rifle. The reply was only thanks and that the idea and reason would be sent up the corporate ladder.
    Henry claims its box magaxzine precision model could be made in any caliber people wanted within head size limits. The description reads a lot like a Browning BLR with rotating bolt, box magazine and rack and pinion lever/bolt mechanism.

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    "Ruger decides that QUALITY is just as important (or more so) as QUANTITY!" Amen! And a few others that seem to think that close enough is close enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norske View Post
    Marlin does make a 44 cal barrel with a .429-.430 bore and 1 in 20" twist, but it's chambered for 444 Marlin.
    No more!
    After Remington took over the twist went to 1-38.
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    My dream -

    I'd like to see RossiUSA introduce their new Customer Interaction Center. A team solely dedicated to interacting directly with customers. Answering the phones and emails! Dealing with service issues one-on-one to fix our guns. Listening one-on-one to our requests and suggestions.

    Basically, tear down the wall that they have between them and us! It's like the door is locked and the doorbell doesn't work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norske View Post
    Marlin does make a 44 cal barrel with a .429-.430 bore and 1 in 20" twist, but it's chambered for 444 Marlin.
    No more!
    After Remington took over the twist went to 1-38.

    I just checked the Marlin site and they do list the 444 in a 1-20 twist.
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    It probably wouldn't sell, but I've always thought that a solid bottom/no magazine small bolt action 9mm rifle would be handy as a step- up trainer rifle for kids and adults alike. Teach precision over leaving a pile of brass( or steel) on the ground the fastest. Heck, I'd buy one for Turkey hunting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texas by God View Post
    It probably wouldn't sell, but I've always thought that a solid bottom/no magazine small bolt action 9mm rifle would be handy as a step- up trainer rifle for kids and adults alike. Teach precision over leaving a pile of brass( or steel) on the ground the fastest. Heck, I'd buy one for Turkey hunting.

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    I have been hoping for such a rifle as well. I would even take a single shot chambered in 9mm but, alas, no one makes any such thing. I can't afford to go custom.

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    Even a lite weight 5.7x28 semi-auto rifle would make a good little garden gun.
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    Tex - got a Bob's single load mag for the BO (223 mag), really like it. Shove one in the slot, drop the bolt and fire. Lock back so just repeat! So a 9mm version gets you there.
    Whatever!

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    Picture a Marlin 15Y, Remington 510 or 580 in 9mm. That's what I want. I could go AR type or stub a Topper( again), but I dont want to. Just a little blue steel and wood bolt action rifle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hickory View Post
    Most 44 magnum handguns have a 1-18 3/4" twist.
    Why would a handgun be so drastically different from a rifle.
    And why would a handgun have a .429-430 groove diameter and a rifle have a larger groove diameter?
    Some bizarre discrepancy dating back to 1800's cartridges. Thankfully Henry has seen the light, and is now selling their rifles with .429" grooves and 1:20 twist barrels. Everyone else clings to the old .431" and 1:38" twist for no good reason.

    I also want to see H&R to come back. It hasn't been sold as far as I know, so there is no reason it can't happen. Or maybe selling to a competent company would be the best thing.


    One I wanted to add, and one I believe is coming sooner or later, is the Ruger GP100 in 41 magnum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nicholst55 View Post
    Ruger decides that QUALITY is just as important (or more so) as QUANTITY!
    Of the common revolver manufacturers, meaning Ruger, S&W, Colt, Charter, I'm sure I'm forgetting some. Of all those, Ruger is putting out the highest quality handguns right now. You have to get into the $1000+ semi-custom guns to beat them. That's just my opinion, I keep buying Ruger, and I keep getting good ones.

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    The Ruger 77/357 in 9mm!!

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    Dito: H&R Handi-Rifles Back in Production

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    Announcements I Wanted to Hear at the 2020 SHOT Show:


    "CNN reports Andrew Cuomo falls into a running woodchipper."
    "Nancy Pelosi sobers up, accidently sponsors bill benefiting Americans."
    "scientists discover corona virus genetic package can be manipulated to cure pediatric leukemia"
    "savage returns to manufacturing the 99 with a rotary magazine"
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    No man is above the law and no man is below it: nor do we ask any man's permission when we ask him to obey it.

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    Industry wide understanding that LOP at 14" is too long for the mass population. 13 1/2" LOP becomes the median standard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fatnhappy View Post
    Announcements I Wanted to Hear at the 2020 SHOT Show:


    "CNN reports Andrew Cuomo falls into a running woodchipper."
    "Nancy Pelosi sobers up, accidently sponsors bill benefiting Americans."
    "scientists discover corona virus genetic package can be manipulated to cure pediatric leukemia"
    "savage returns to manufacturing the 99 with a rotary magazine"
    I would like to see that one as well.

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