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Thread: Magnum Research 'Thunder Snub' BFR in .45-70 Gov't.

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    Magnum Research 'Thunder Snub' BFR in .45-70 Gov't.

    2nd Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. - "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

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    Good article. The pentagonal cylinder sure takes some getting used to.
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    Nope, not me would not even touch off one round!

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    So ugly it hurts. Literally and figuratively! And a Custom Rem 700 .458 pistol is ILLEGAL. Some folks and their kids!

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    the ugly hurts, but more than likely not that bad to shoot. its still not super light, and the 45-70 in a revolver just isnt all its cracked up to be when it comes to power.

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    In my 10 45-70 BFR, I have pushed 405gn cast to 1750fps before. I think that that is all it's cracked up to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texas by God View Post
    So ugly it hurts. Literally and figuratively! And a Custom Rem 700 .458 pistol is ILLEGAL. Some folks and their kids!

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    Wrong $200 dollar Tax stamp on proper ATF form totally legal.

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    I'm trying to wrap my head around why a Remington 700 pistol in .458 would be illegal ?

    But anyhoo .. I'm not a fan of the long frame bfr's , it's pure aesthetic's for me .
    But I am a bfr fan , I love my .475 , And I've wanted to do a short barreled 500jrh for awhile if funds ever permitted .
    This just affirms my desire

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texas by God View Post
    So ugly it hurts. Literally and figuratively! And a Custom Rem 700 .458 pistol is ILLEGAL. Some folks and their kids!

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    Mag is too short if you are referring to a 458 Win Mag but fully legal without a stamp as a 458 Win Mag single shot or a shortened 458 Win Mag for magizine usage. https://www.remington.com/handguns/700-cp
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    Quote Originally Posted by redneck1 View Post
    I'm trying to wrap my head around why a Remington 700 pistol in .458 would be illegal ?

    But anyhoo .. I'm not a fan of the long frame bfr's , it's pure aesthetic's for me .
    But I am a bfr fan , I love my .475 , And I've wanted to do a short barreled 500jrh for awhile if funds ever permitted .
    This just affirms my desire
    If it started as a rifle the action can not be used since it would be a SBR. If it started as a pistol no issues. Heard the case on both sides about an unassigned action for use as a handgun. I am not comfortable make a statement on what is legal on that issue.
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    A virgin action can legally be made into a pistol.

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    That clears up my confusion , reading the article and seeing that custom built statement I just assumed it would have been built on a virgin action . And never even thought about anything else .
    I'd of also automatically assumed that if it had been built on a rifle action the proper tax stamp would have been acquired.

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    I am truly impressed. I thought my 6 inch barreled BFR in .45-70 was the smallest one out there. I never thought that Magnum Research would custom make one until now. I totally missed it. I wear a shooting glove to prevent damage to by finger behind the trigger guard. But yes the recoil is a bit stiff.

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    If he had stayed with the standard cylinder and round barrel, and maybe gone another inch on the barrel, it would have been a cool looking pistol. But the author specifically chose the options that made it so hideous. I'd hate see his taste in clothes and cars. Probably drives a Pontiac Aztec and wears blue polyester leisure suits.
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    In my defense, the author stated that his cousin Steve had a 458 Winchester Magnum Remington 700 "pistol" built "years ago"- so I "assumed" that a Remington model 700 rifle in .458 WM was cut down for the purpose. During the XP100/Contender glory days of Silhouette shooting/hunting I desperately wanted to build my own 98 Mauser 8mm pistol- but the fact that it was a Felony put a damper on that idea. Maybe you could ask the BATF for permission first but they probably would say no.

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    Ouch! I do not personally understand why anyone would want what looks like lightening cuts on a cannon like that. I would leave all the weight that could be aesthetically possible on the gun, because it's gonna kick you! More weight is your friend when there is that much power involved, I think. (Maybe some wheels too.)
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    Since no one factory produced a production XP 100 pistol in 458 Win Mag it had to be custom.. It was a handgun to begin with not a rifle turned info a pistol and was registered as a handgun. Not illegal to put a rifle caliber on a handgun. If it was explain a 223 Contender or a 30/06 Encore. Midwayusa used to sell Contender and Encore Barrels in rifle calibers before TC became a name only.
    The barrels didnt need to be registered. I have bought rifle cartridge chambered barrels from SSK before to use in Encore and Contender frames registered as handguns.
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    We Know Mass Cannot Be Weighed But It Has Newtonian Weight And That Is Derived From Kilograms And Kilograms Can Be Converted to Pounds. But, Still Mass Cannot Be Weighed. But How is the kilograms obtained? Can Kilograms Be Weighed? Evidentally Yes It Can. But, Still Mass Cannot Be Weighed So Kilograms Must Not Exist. Funny Isn't It.
    One good thing out of this the next time I'm at the doctors and they want to weigh me I'll tell them mass cannot be weighed.

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    How much power do you think the 45/70 revolver has? Not with the weak 45/70 ammo but the correct loading for power.

    Quote Originally Posted by lefty o View Post
    the ugly hurts, but more than likely not that bad to shoot. its still not super light, and the 45-70 in a revolver just isnt all its cracked up to be when it comes to power.
    We Know Mass Cannot Be Weighed But It Has Newtonian Weight And That Is Derived From Kilograms And Kilograms Can Be Converted to Pounds. But, Still Mass Cannot Be Weighed. But How is the kilograms obtained? Can Kilograms Be Weighed? Evidentally Yes It Can. But, Still Mass Cannot Be Weighed So Kilograms Must Not Exist. Funny Isn't It.
    One good thing out of this the next time I'm at the doctors and they want to weigh me I'll tell them mass cannot be weighed.

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    It's a similar idea to the Ruger Alaskan. I don't know how you could possibly shoot something like that effectively. It's got to be better than the 45-70 derringer though.

    That BFR chambered in 307 Winchester sure would be something to behold though. A real "short rifle".

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    That looks like something Officer Tackelberry on "Police Academy" would carry as a back up.
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