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    Rather unusual swaging question.

    I was recently asked by a friend of mine who knows I swage ,what are the possibilities of using some of his father’s ashes to make some projectiles with. He wants to take pops shooting one last time. I realize that this isn’t a normal request here. Any thoughts?

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    Maybe make a hbwc and then run into a point form die

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    If it were me, I'd have reservations about it.
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    That is a bit odd.

    Maybe you could put Pop inside a hollow point and epoxy him in there.
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    Honestly a shotgun would be the best option

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    There are companies that do this for a living. I’m going to suggest he look into that first. I do however appreciate the suggestions. All would probably work.

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    Try mixing the ash with powder coating I would think it would bond without a problem. Or depositing the ash into PC after it flows, do a partial cure and then a clear coat with full cure.

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    I have a small cannon. A good friend of mine was shot out of a muzzle loading shotgun, (multiple rounds).
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    Shotgun

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    Quote Originally Posted by rmatchell View Post
    Honestly a shotgun would be the best option
    Just don't shoot into the wind.

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    I think I would pass on trying to bond some of Dad's ashes in a bullet or bullet coating or whatever. If it were me I would simply take his ashes out to his favorite range and deposit them.

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    I'm have been asked to load shotgun shells with ashes. The person hasn't brought me the ashes as of yet.
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    When my brother passed away a few years ago, we had already planned a family gathering/hunting trip.
    I loaded 3 cartridges for each of our hunting rifles (Mom's, mine, and two remaining brothers), that included about 5 grains of my brother's ashes. I reduced the powder charge for each to the recommended starting charge for the bullet that was being loaded - sorry, they weren't cast.
    On the first afternoon at hunting camp, we gave my brother a 4 gun salute and send off.

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    Mix ashes with tannerite

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    Possibly mix the ashes into a pot or 2 of lead and cast with them into the cores or bullets. Weve dine this a couple times at the club using the ashes like buffer in a shotgun shell. Took a couple rounds of trap with the 4 shooters using them. A solid slug will be harder to get the ashes bonded into.

    Most areas now have regulations concerning scattering human ashes remains.

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    Well it could be done in a Jacketed Rifle Projectile, Rather easy, but depends on how much you want in each projectile, I did some dried pigs blood cores in 308 projectiles for the PNP years ago.. They shot very well out to 500 meters .

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    Ashes won't "mix" into molten lead.
    As with all of the other carbon based items we put in (as Flux), they will end up on the top as dross.

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    Guess you could take a q-tip and run some ashes in the inside of the jacket, then seat the core and form the bullet. Or take a shorter core and seat it in the jacket, then in the empty space left, add some ashes , then form the point, to make a hollow point.

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    The easy button is speer shot capsules. Either load them exclusively with ashes, or fill them with shot and use the ashes to fill the space between the pellets like buffered shot loads.
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    Odd request, meet odd solution:

    Under the spout of a bottom pour casting pot, use an air nozzle and blow molten lead droplets into a fire retardant box a few feet away to make "powdered" lead (really its tiny lead needles) and use that in combination with the ash to swage a core.

    Use that core as you normally would in a jacket and load according to the finished weight.

    I have made sintered bullets for some time using this method and made some 45-70 bullets with a family members ashes successfully. I had to play with the mix a bit but it did work at lower velocities.

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