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    Quote Originally Posted by 44MAG#1 View Post
    I have a question. After 214 posts on this subject what has everyone determined? .... we didnt already know about how this thread would turn out. To me it solved nothing and changed no ones opinion much less belief and I knew this from the start.
    I am not trying to be "snarkey" or any other despicable way. Just curious as to what others have to say.
    You're not snarky at all.

    Each of us post to what's interesting to us. Most of us post in good will while knowing we're not likely to change many minds, we all hold our beliefs too firmly to expect others to easily change directions.

    BUT - I believe thoughtful threads are likely to eventually shift the minds of some others. Maybe even including this one!
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    Quote Originally Posted by a danl View Post
    the first two are correct ; however God did not create evil , satan wanted to be greater than God so he and his following angels were cast out of heaven. and one day God will put an end to satan's reign here on earth. all bad things are from satan because this is a fallen world, and satan DOES exist, just look around you and you will see the evil that exists.
    Jesus Christ, you keep paraphrasing the bible to me. You don't have to do that for the common biblical stuff. I heard it in church for two decades and I read the Bible. I actually was a youth counselor and taught the Bible to kids. I came to disbelieve the Bible when I realized I did not believe what I was teaching.

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    Quote Originally Posted by a danl View Post
    if you cannot be convinced by God's word then i can't make you believe either. remember this 'man looks at the outward but God looks at the heart'
    Yes, God looks at my Heart. I hope in my he sees virtue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 44MAG#1 View Post
    I have a question. After 214 posts on this subject what has everyone determined?
    To me it is as apparent as the nose on ones face as to what has been learned and it is that everyone has a belief on this subject, everyone is going to do or say whatever he/she can to defend their opinion whether it is right or wrong, everyone believes they are right and the others are wrong. This can be compared to discussing different denominations, which brand of vehicle is the best, which caliber is best, agument about enery, momentum, Taylor Knockout Value, bullet diameter, velocity or bullet weight is the determining factor in killing power.
    Without me going into more detail didnt everyone know how this would go? What would the possibility be that anyone wouldnt know how it was going to turn out?
    Now in a concise way please lets state what we have learned that we didnt already know about how this thread would turn out.
    To me it solved nothing and changed no ones opinion much less belief and I knew this from the start.
    I am not trying to be "snarkey" or any other despicable way. Just curious as to what others have to say.
    We have learned why that denomination is going to fracture. The split is real and deep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1hole View Post
    Ah Timmy, as a confirmed innerlecshul "liberal" you only see your opposites in black and blacker; don't you know that may not be fair?

    You just can't seem to get it that Christianity is not a religious club where anyone can "half believe" anything and call themselves by a nice label and make it so. So, I'll write this note to you and anyone who wonders if anything you say here is worth hearing.

    First, surely you know I don't care what you or any other religious cultist calls me because I know you have no valid reference for doing so. Can you grasp that all Christians here know that you lack any understanding of what you're talking about and it greatly reduces any effect on us you may hope to accomplish?

    We have Christian Baptists, Methodists, Presbyterians, etc. and our core beliefs have the same foundation; cults do not. So, by definition, they are cults no matter what else they say. Mormons and J.W.s claim to be Christians but, like you, their lips (including yous) don't make it so! Cults have an entirely different "jesus", different doctrines and a vastly different afterlife than Christians. And that's not my judgemental or hypothetical put-down, it's what they will tell you.

    I grew up with a determined LDS mother who succeeded in drawing my father and younger sister into that fold but, by the grace of God and the fervent prayers of my Christian grandparents, I am no Morman. I have several cousins (that I love) who remain in that cult today. They are all good people, we don't talk religion because we have vastly different beliefs but we hold together in mutual courtesy. And I know some very nice J.W.s too. They've all solid cultists but none of them are the depraved maniacs you suggest and I'm appalled you would say so.

    You need to grow up.
    I did not call them depraved maniacs, I don't even call them cultists you did. I respect everyone's right to believe as they wish and if they behave as a religion I will credit them as a religious group. Buddhists, LDS, JW, Jews, Sunnis, Shia, Hindu, Catholic, Baptist, Methodist, Shinto, Zoroastrian, Universalists all of the are valid religions. I wish I could name some Aboriginal religions to add to the list but I have not studied them.

    Your disrespect and distain for other religions is obvious and appalling. Your sense of superiority is a sin. You can't hide it God sees the real you even better than I.

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    tim....... sorry, He wants to see a humbled and thankful heart because of what Jesus has done for you. virtue won't work

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1hole View Post
    Ah Timmy, as a confirmed innerlecshul "liberal" ...........
    Do you think you are sly with your insults? What person calls a man Timmy? My mother stopped calling me Timmy more than 40 years ago. Your not man enough to even use your real name.

    I find it hard to believe that you don't know how to spell intellectual so again some deliberate attempt to annoy.

    Liberal, you know that on this forum that is not much different than calling someone a "***"

    I wonder why the moderators tolerate you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by a danl View Post
    tim....... sorry, He wants to see a humbled and thankful heart because of what Jesus has done for you. virtue won't work
    Again, that is the Bible talking. Believe as you wish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dtknowles View Post
    Again, that is the Bible talking. Believe as you wish.

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    i'm sorry but i have to end this conversation

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    Quote Originally Posted by a danl View Post
    i'm sorry but i have to end this conversation
    You don't have to tell anyone to end a conversation, you just stop posting. Telling people you are ending is passive aggressive. You are entitled to stop conversing but you can't expect the other person to give you the last word. Also, why are you sorry? I am glad for you too stop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dtknowles View Post
    You don't have to tell anyone to end a conversation, you just stop posting. Telling people you are ending is passive aggressive. You are entitled to stop conversing but you can't expect the other person to give you the last word. Also, why are you sorry? I am glad for you too stop.

    Tim
    One of the very rare things I've seen you post on here that I totally agree with!

    We all have our own beliefs, and they develop in each of us for many different reasons, in different ways. Jesus taught the people in parables, and they are still valid teachings today. I can start down a whole list of things that different "main stream" Christian won't agree on, much less nonbelievers, but I can still wish you peace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thundarstick View Post
    One of the very rare things I've seen you post on here that I totally agree with!

    We all have our own beliefs, and they develop in each of us for many different reasons, in different ways. Jesus taught the people in parables, and they are still valid teachings today. I can start down a whole list of things that different "main stream" Christian won't agree on, much less nonbelievers, but I can still wish you peace.
    Good post!
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    God created gay people. He either allowed it to happen as the fetus was developing or he put the child in a situation where they were abused and transformed. He has no right to claim it’s a sin after the fact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dtknowles View Post
    Your disrespect and distain for other religions is obvious and appalling.
    You sneer at my laffable spelling of innerlectsul but you don't know what it means and then smart ol' you can't even correctly spell disdain! (I'll help; highly eddicated innerlecsuls are pompous snobs who announce themselves as superior beings who are much too intelligent to believe in the plebs' God of the Bible.) In other words, you sir, are too amusing for words.

    Respect? I respect people, I do not respect grossly wrong ideas and feel a duty to attempt correction in potential harmful error. (Like, I respectfully warn people who don't know any better not to pee on electric fences and please don't follow false gods!)

    So, you're appalled? Well, I suspect superior ol' you are well accustomed to being appalled by your presumed inferiors like me so that doesn't mean much. (Do you find that appalling?)

    You can't hide it God sees the real you even better than I.
    Well, we're finally getting somewhere when you admit that God can see anything better than you so you aren't a totally lost cause yet; hang in there!

    Now don't get angry, and do forgive me for doing this, I really are trying to stop but you keep challenging me and insist in throwing your d__k on the floor; I just can't resist stomping on it a little bit. Be kool, it's all in phun you know ...

    I pray your Great Nebulous Farce - I mean Force - will be with you this day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dtknowles View Post
    Yes, God looks at my Heart. I hope in my he sees virtue.

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    You chime in these posts a lot one has to wonder what you are searching for.
    Have you accepted Jesus Christ as your Savior?
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    A lot of trampled pearls in this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DCP View Post
    You chime in these posts a lot one has to wonder what you are searching for.
    Have you accepted Jesus Christ as your Savior?
    I guess you have not read my posts. I have posted several times that I don't believe that Jesus is the Christ and he is not my Savior. I and not searching I am spreading the word that only good works will save you not Jesus' forgiveness. If you do not repent and correct your sins and make the world a better place you will not be saved no matter what the bible says.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1hole View Post
    You sneer at my laffable spelling of innerlectsul but you don't know what it means and then smart ol' you can't even correctly spell disdain! (I'll help; highly eddicated innerlecsuls are pompous snobs who announce themselves as superior beings who are much too intelligent to believe in the plebs' God of the Bible.) In other words, you sir, are too amusing for words.

    Respect? I respect people, I do not respect grossly wrong ideas and feel a duty to attempt correction in potential harmful error. (Like, I respectfully warn people who don't know any better not to pee on electric fences and please don't follow false gods!)

    So, you're appalled? Well, I suspect superior ol' you are well accustomed to being appalled by your presumed inferiors like me so that doesn't mean much. (Do you find that appalling?)



    Well, we're finally getting somewhere when you admit that God can see anything better than you so you aren't a totally lost cause yet; hang in there!

    Now don't get angry, and do forgive me for doing this, I really are trying to stop but you keep challenging me and insist in throwing your d__k on the floor; I just can't resist stomping on it a little bit. Be kool, it's all in phun you know ...

    I pray your Great Nebulous Farce - I mean Force - will be with you this day.
    What is your name?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dtknowles View Post
    I guess you have not read my posts. I have posted several times that I don't believe that Jesus is the Christ and he is not my Savior. I and not searching I am spreading the word that only good works will save you not Jesus' forgiveness. If you do not repent and correct your sins and make the world a better place you will not be saved no matter what the bible says.

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    So all you want to do is sow discord in the Chapel because you don't believe in the bible.

    I will pray for you Tim
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    Quote Originally Posted by DCP View Post
    So all you want to do is sow discord in the Chapel because you don't believe in the bible.

    I will pray for you Tim
    Not sow discord. I have come to save those who can be saved.

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