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Thread: WTS - Flintlock Trade Gun/Fowler - Original - Not Reproduction

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    WTS - Flintlock Trade Gun/Fowler - Original - Not Reproduction

    Flintlock Trade Gun/Fowler - Original - Not Reproduction
    .580"/24ga smooth bore

    Asking $665 shipped.

    Album:
    https://imgur.com/a/ZxZUN - Please be aware, the yellow indoor lighting has made the metal look more brown that it is with the naked eye.

    Fun Facts:

    The hand wrap is rawhide and can be easily removed. I did this for decorative/ergonomic purposes. It provides a better grip in gloved hands since I was hunting grouse in cooler weather.

    2 years ago the frizzen was re-hardened by custom muzzleloader maker. Shoots bird shot very well, Also shoots a 0.570" round ball loaded from a paper cartridge

    There is a small amount of decorative metal engraving on the top of the barrel near the lock, a bit more engraving on the side of the lock, the trigger guard, and a small amount on the metal buttplate as well.The lock is nice and strong and as fast as I ever needed it for hunting small game. Trigger is of decent pull weight. For it's age, it is an really remarkable condition. I mostly use it with shot (#4-6 sized depending on my supply), but it will shoot a round ball pretty well at 50 yards. There was no ram rod when I received it, so I made my own. It's wooden.

    Dating
    By no means am I a historian, but the proof mark shows it went through the Liege proof house in Belgium. Online resources show two different dates that the proof mark can mean. The NRA museum says it was used 1811 to 1892, but many other places (and a book on trade guns I own) say that starting 1810 this was the sole proof mark until 1853, when it became the mark for definitive proof. Not sure what a sole proof and a definitive proof means. Perhaps someone with far more experience looking at proof marks could do a better job estimating. I like to think it's the first half of the 1800's given the proof mark and that it is a flintlock. These are only my attempts at trying to date this fowler. I like to say it's of 1840's vintage, erroring on the latter span of the proof mark.

    I also have a full possibles/shoulder bag kit that I could also sell. This would come with all the necessary accoutrements, horns, everything. I can take pictures of this if the flintlock buyer is interested
    Priming horn
    Powder horn
    Powder measure
    Patch knife
    Flints
    Wadding
    Patches
    Bird Shot
    Roundballs
    Custom Leather Flask for Bird Shot
    Knapping Iron
    Tools
    Bore Lube
    Paper Crtridges -Bird Shot
    Paper Cartridges -Round Ball

    Asking $145



    Album:
    https://imgur.com/a/ZxZUN


    Individual Links:

    Full Shots:
    https://i.imgur.com/XOfStmW.jpg
    https://i.imgur.com/7q01KVE.jpg

    Closer Up:
    https://i.imgur.com/IHd1WdW.jpg
    https://i.imgur.com/nW27USl.jpg

    Lock Detail:
    https://i.imgur.com/PyGAVHr.jpg

    Engravings:
    https://i.imgur.com/HtMJuHs.jpg
    https://i.imgur.com/g6Gatgq.jpg
    https://i.imgur.com/fGa617I.jpg

    Proof Mark:
    https://i.imgur.com/9nZXhWH.jpg
    https://i.imgur.com/Yrpn3Of.jpg












    I can take more pictures upon request.

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    Good golly that is a cheap price I am thinking hard!!!

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    Yes, I was very torn as to how to price this. To me, this is a working shooter grade trade gun. I got it so I could romp around the woods and feel all mountain man like. And ad rendezvous it always gets a dozen looks and asks for shooting. It's a ton of fun. But still did not know how to price it. But I do know I want to buy my daughter a drum set, and this should cover a decent used one. Hopefully it's a good price since Track of the Wolf Northwest Trade gun kits are priced: starting at $803.92

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    if you dont sell the possibles bag with the gun, I would be interested in the possibles bag
    if you are ever being chased by a taxidermist, don't play dead

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    Good morning Free bump to the top of the list
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    this has been sold... also.. aint gonna lie. I'll miss her

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