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    Quote Originally Posted by Edward View Post
    You just listed whats wrong ,before getting panties in a bunch utilize the search engine in the top right of this forum . Try doing the work ,I have for years/Ed
    Why not explain instead of just throwing out stupid posts? If I'm all wrong then your saying that Bore Butter isn't a good lube but is good for rust protection and barrel seasoning? Maybe you need to hit that search function just a little since you seem to be going against what most people think of Bore Butter.

    Here are a couple links to get you started.

    http://castboolits.gunloads.com/arch...p/t-17099.html

    https://www.thehighroad.org/index.ph...butter.794403/

    https://www.shootersforum.com/muzzle...nder-lube.html

    As you can see from the links while this is a great forum there are a ton of other resources on the net that can be found with just a simple Google search for a topic.

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    50/50 pure mink oil and beeswax. You’ll never use anything else.

    I used Bore Butter for many years mainly because I never tried anything else. I don think it’s that great of a lube after using the beeswax/mink oil mix. BB doesn’t lube the ball or patch as well, and I only swab after 25 shots or so with mink oil. Then when I do, it cleans easier.

    If that’s all you can get the by all means use it. But on the back end, it provides no rust protection at all for storage. Others may disagree but this has been my experience. 40 years of black powder so far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjarrell View Post
    50/50 pure mink oil and beeswax. You’ll never use anything else.

    I used Bore Butter for many years mainly because I never tried anything else. I don think it’s that great of a lube after using the beeswax/mink oil mix. BB doesn’t lube the ball or patch as well, and I only swab after 25 shots or so with mink oil. Then when I do, it cleans easier.

    If that’s all you can get the by all means use it. But on the back end, it provides no rust protection at all for storage. Others may disagree but this has been my experience. 40 years of black powder so far.
    I've been looking to change to TOTW mink oil. At room temperature it seems perfect, and even below freezing it seems to stay soft enough. Does the stuff really thin out above 80 degrees?

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    Use what you find to work in your firearm and with the temps you shoot in and when can some of you stop running off at the mouth about this and that and go shoot a little more . Some use bore butter , I have and yes I have shot 30 plus shots and had no problems loading , yes they were maxi balls I cast myself , no it is not what I use for patched round balls , yes mink oil is nice on my caulk boots , used neats foot oil to , crisco , beeswax , olive oil , find what you like there are enough lubes you can pick and choose and most of them will fit the need and will be useable in what your need is go shoot and see what works for you and quit beating each other for what each likes , chapstick was a nice touch but I question some of these stories as the bore butter 1000 plus seems to have a different consistency in what I have , maybe carmex is closer , do not care , heck use some old pig or beef fat , almost any lube will actually work more then the time wasted talking about it.

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    IF we're still allowed to own firearms in another 200 years.....I'd bet a million dollars there will still be lube debates going on...and I'd probably win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gesthuntn View Post
    After cleaning I want to make sure all the water is out of my barrel before coating in Bore Butter. That is what I'm asking. Do you use very hot water so that it evaporates fast? I have heard that this causes flash rusting.

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    when I clean my front stuffers I use a kettle full of just boiled water. Therefore when I am done cleaning, the bore is only wet for a half a minute. The bore gets very hot from the boiling water and retains that heat and therefore evaporates the moisture that is on/in the bore.

    Then I apply the bore butter. And I love the stuff and the smell. When I smell it, I'm like Pavlov's dog. I immediately think of muzzleoading.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharps4590 View Post
    IF we're still allowed to own firearms in another 200 years.....I'd bet a million dollars there will still be lube debates going on...and I'd probably win.
    No body wins
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimner View Post
    when I clean my front stuffers I use a kettle full of just boiled water. Therefore when I am done cleaning, the bore is only wet for a half a minute. The bore gets very hot from the boiling water and retains that heat and therefore evaporates the moisture that is on/in the bore.

    Then I apply the bore butter. And I love the stuff and the smell. When I smell it, I'm like Pavlov's dog. I immediately think of muzzleoading.
    The next time you clean with that method, once it is dry and cool run a clean dry white patch in and out. You might be surprised at the color!

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    Quote Originally Posted by longcruise View Post
    The next time you clean with that method, once it is dry and cool run a clean dry white patch in and out. You might be surprised at the color!
    I have purposely stayed out of this discussion. I have used bb or wonder lube for 30 years. With a new gun I can get some 'flash rust', but after a few cleaning, I never see it again. If I do my part, everything works perfectly. I will say that if target shooting, I will spit patch, so I can fire more shots between cleaning. It was the way I learned, saw no reason to change. Tom

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    Quote Originally Posted by longcruise View Post
    The next time you clean with that method, once it is dry and cool run a clean dry white patch in and out. You might be surprised at the color!
    Actually I do run many patches down there. First both whIle the bore is wet, I'll mop it with patch after patch until the water coming out the flashhole is no longer black. Then after it dries, I run dry patches until they come out without brown streaks. Brown streaks are very very minor, the width of a sliver. After that is when I give it bore butter.

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    The red streaks are rust!

    If you use tap hot water it won't happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by longcruise View Post
    The red streaks are rust!

    If you use tap hot water it won't happen.
    yep yr right .....bet ya wont convince him tho...................
    tepid (blood temperature) water is even better
    just caint tell them fellers with the kettle though

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    So your saying I can skip the boiling? And no mini brown streaks? Not sure how tepid or hot water will be different than boiling, but I'll give it a try. Wife always looks at me oddly when I have a musket in one hand and her kettle in the other.

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    I think the boiling hot water thing started with the TC owner's manual.

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    The guys that clean their guns in a bath tub make me shake my head.

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    Mink paste for patches and a clean bore for storage.

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    Never had a problem with BB, but it is a pain to use. This year I am going to try Ballistol.

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    While not the best lube it does work. In my small calibers I need to swab after a couple shots or accuracy goes south quick. It also does help keep corrosion down if you don't clear right away after shooting.
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    Great thread. Certainly interesting to watch y'all chat about it. haha
    I've used BB for ball patch lube in my .54, and find it a pain after the 3rd or 4th shot.
    So yes, I'm looking for something different. Thanks to you fellas for the ideas!

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    Bob in St. L, This one is effective and easy to make (and you can substitute canola, olive, or peanut oil for the castor oil): https://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/t...e-snot.105258/

    One minor caution, which I recently discovered: Patches coated with Stumpy's or with Bore Butter or its clones, deteriorate over time. Just sayin'....

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