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Thread: .458 Winchester Magnum is Ohio deer legal.

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    .458 Winchester Magnum is Ohio deer legal.

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/QJReNpeWSjrLchJB7

    I canít seem to link a photo. I have a line on a rifle in .458 Winchester Magnum. These can be loaded to trapdoor Springfield levels. This would be a fine deer legal cartridge. The game warden was not going to give me a straight answer so I got two dummy cartridges from @725 and @richdog66 and mailed one to the DNR.

    I got the linked letter in todayís mail.

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    It's good that you got it in writing and signed.
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    The game warden was yes....No.... I don’t know....

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    ok....This does prove a point, though. No matter what law the government puts in place an enterprising citizen will find a way around it.

    A 458 Mag, though....Guess that would work on a whitetail
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    Oh, you mean the .45-90 Belted?

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    LOL I thought about using my Savage in 458 WM this fall on deer here in Ohio
    I even have 3 different cast loads

    But the BFR in 45/70 was ready and it worked

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonp View Post
    ok....This does prove a point, though. No matter what law the government puts in place an enterprising citizen will find a way around it.

    A 458 Mag, though....Guess that would work on a whitetail
    Not necessarily overkill. If you cast and reload, a .458 can become a nice, mild .45-70 very, very easily. Some kind of a 300ish grain flat nosed .45-70 bullet and say 35 grains of 5744. It'll flatten Bambi and not kick anymore than a .308 or similar.

    Personally, I think this is a much better idea than a pistol caliber lever gun or something silly like that .350 Legend.

    Now I want to go out and buy a Ruger #1 Tropical. My .458 is the size and weight of an antitank rifle, no good for hunting.

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    I have used a Number Ruger 458 WM for deer loaded with cast 405 grain WFN ...... very effective

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    Have used my 458AccRel on deer and a pig. Shot the pig on a game ranch. My “ Guide” was surprised by it. He,s remark was great! I have never seen the ground hit a pig that hard!

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    I believe .458 WINMag is no longer cataloged in the#1 Tropical,because I have 3 people trying to get me to price mine.It is offered in.458 Lott, or it was earlier in the year.It can be very pleasant to shoot and accurate.Mine will cloverleaf 3 shots @100 yds with 5744 & different BP loads.It surprised me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robbyPGP2014 View Post
    I believe .458 WINMag is no longer cataloged in the#1 Tropical,because I have 3 people trying to get me to price mine.It is offered in.458 Lott, or it was earlier in the year.It can be very pleasant to shoot and accurate.Mine will cloverleaf 3 shots @100 yds with 5744 & different BP loads.It surprised me.
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but you can shoot .458 Win Mag in a .458 Lott chamber, right?

    I think one of those would really be cool to play with.

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    I took my .458 WM Tropical and a Dave Mason reamer and made a .458 Lott. At the time I had visions of returning to Africa, but alas, the farm, kids, retirement, surgery, ......... all got in the way. I load it down with an old group buy, wide meplat boolit and puff it along like a trap door. It's the neatest thing. Shoots soft, is accurate and chunks a boolit just fine. If I ever had the need, I can crank it back up to something suitable to weld on the deck of a battle ship to engage medium sized ships. .458 WM brass works great.

    Congrats to DanishM1Garrand for an effort that will benefit many in his State.

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    You have those deerasoous down there in OH. I guess I could use my Lott.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg S View Post
    You have those deerasoous down there in OH. I guess I could use my Lott.
    No we have a straight wall rifle cartridges law. .30-30 or .35 Remington are a no go. I was offered a .458 win mag and perusing the loading data it can be loaded in the .45-70 or .454 Casull range. The law is vague enough that I asked in writing.

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    Smart getting it in writing and not going off of what an officer says.

    I always thought how they come up with some of these cartridge restrictions made no sense at all.

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    Danish, I have lived in OH my whole life and game laws still seem very strang. Yes a 458 Win Mag is a legal deer cartridges as is it is also legal to hunt squirrels with.
    Before OH passed the strait walled cartridge rifle law about 4 years ago the 458 Win Mag was still legal to hunt deer with as long as it had a minumum 5" barrel and was chambered in a handgun.
    BUT! If you use a shotgun it cannot have a all metallic case ? That makes a lot of sense right

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    Naw they have evolved to hair made of Kevlar now. Bullet proofed deer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by richhodg66 View Post
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but you can shoot .458 Win Mag in a .458 Lott chamber, right?

    I think one of those would really be cool to play with.
    Evidently.458 Win Mag fires in Lott chambers without issue. https://www.americanhunter.org/artic...g-vs-458-lott/

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