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    Lee 452-200 cavity, threads went and I rebuilt it several times. Biggest issue was wear at the sprue plate pivot do to galling that made it tough to keep it tensioned and level with the top of the blocks. Was still casting okay but replaced it with a new one, and expect this one to last using lessons learned on lubing while using the first one. Probably cast 45-50K bullets with the first one before I retired it.

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    I bought a new Lee mould 20 some years ago and it was worn out when I got it. After prepping it and heating it the boolits would not drop from the mould from the get-go. Had to use a mallet everytime to get them to drop. Several years after that I was given a Lee mould that cast perfect boolits with ease.
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    IF you treat them nice, keep them lubed, don't water cool, loan or beat the heck out of them they will last a long, long long time.

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    Just keep them properly lubed.
    The solid soft lead bullet is undoubtably the best and most satisfactory expanding bullet that has ever been designed. It invariably mushrooms perfectly, and never breaks up. With the metal base that is essential for velocities of 2000 f.s. and upwards to protect the naked base, these metal-based soft lead bullets are splendid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hickory View Post
    I bought a new Lee mould 20 some years ago and it was worn out when I got it. After prepping it and heating it the boolits would not drop from the mould from the get-go. Had to use a mallet everytime to get them to drop. Several years after that I was given a Lee mould that cast perfect boolits with ease.
    When you get one that won't drop, take some 0000 steel wool, and lightly polish the edges of the cavities.
    The solid soft lead bullet is undoubtably the best and most satisfactory expanding bullet that has ever been designed. It invariably mushrooms perfectly, and never breaks up. With the metal base that is essential for velocities of 2000 f.s. and upwards to protect the naked base, these metal-based soft lead bullets are splendid.
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    I've seen more Lee moulds beaten to death by heavy handed caster's than worn out .
    A little TLC will extend the life of any mould .

    I got my first Lee single cavity mould in 1970 , $9.99 I believe , and by treating it gently , I'm still using it .
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    I am still trying to wear any of them that have. I have purchased some that took some serious tlc to get back in shape. But they still cast good bullets and some cast very good bullets. I still buy them for something to do.

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    I have had aluminum molds since early 70's none are wore out all still going fine. last count 15 aluminum molds no problems Mtn.,Acc.and lee all good. Ithink the biggest problem with them is some of the people using them.

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    Aluminum molds with proper care, will outlive you and your grandkids. I have used a Lee .44 215gr mold since about 1983 that I got secondhand that is still chugging away. Many thousands of boolits have dropped from this mold. Only aluminum mold that has given me problems is a Lee .45 225gr mold that had mold release used in it and the release agent got squeezed under the old style alignment pins and caused the mold to not close tightly. Used mold. I don't use release agent. Kroil on a Q tip for cavities. Two cycle oil for sprue plate screw and hinge bolt. A little smoke if needed. All my molds will outlive me by decades.
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    No, I have not worn out an aluminum mold from use. I HAVE had steel sprue plates rust to the point where they don't work thinking that oh "aluminum moulds don't rust." Yes they do and now I wrap my AL and Brass molds in the exact same VCI paper that I wrap my steel/iron molds in. Also, it's important to realize not all aluminum molds are created equal. There are Lee's offerings, where even the new 2-cavity and 6-cavity are more durable than the old 2-cavity ones without alignment pins, though they all seem to be made out of chewing gun aluminum. And there is everybody else's Aluminum molds, which are made out of ideal aluminum alloys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mdi View Post
    I believe it the mold is "lubed" and not mistreated it will last a lifetime. I use a Q-tip dampened with 2 cycle motor oil to put a light film of oil on the top of the mold and bottom of the sprue plate, where they rub on each other. A dab on the alignment pins/bars. My first Lee mold was purchased in '88 so I don't have any "old" molds...
    I too use the 2 cycle oil, but prefer a wooden chopstick over a q-tip. The stick doesn't need a bunch of oil, in fact I hardly use any. The oil in the wood fibers wicks enough on the hot surfaces and makes it easier (for me) to control where I want to oil. As an added benefit, I can use a little pressure on the underside of the sprue plate to clean of any possible lead deposit while still avoiding the part of the plate that covers the boolit base. What part of SO/OR? I spend half my time in NO/CA in Crescent City. Frank
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    Quote Originally Posted by brewer12345 View Post
    I have been on a tear with the 6 banger Lee copy of the HG 68 45 SWC lately. Must be closing in on 5000 boolits cast with this mold. Once it is up to temp it casts nice boolits fairly quickly and empties the pot in a hurry. I was wondering if I need to be on the lookout for the mold wearing out. Anyone ever worn out an aluminum mold? What should I be looking for as signs of trouble? All my other molds simply do not get the volume that this one sees, and I suspect that the old school steel molds probably will never wear out unless I let them rust badly.
    I have a LEE mold that my brother bought in 1970, that he was cast out of just before his death, and that I shot some of yesterday. It is a two cavity model.

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    I have many that are from the 70's. If you get lead build up on the top of the blocks, when casting, the mold is a bit too hot. When you see any lead smearing, wipe it away immediately with a slightly oiled old rag. To prevent it, count the no. of casts before the smearing starts: Wipe it away....invert the mold and touch the sprue plate to a damp sponge. That will cool it slightly. Repeat after so many casts and you will no longer have any lead smearing. This works with iron molds as well. Or do what Mike Ventrino suggests...cast with two molds allowing the one to cool so it won't have lead smearing.

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    I have two Lee 6 bangers that I bought new in '95. They were both for my .38's/357's. I bought another in 2005 for my Ruger P-90 in .45. All of them have been used a lot and cared for carefully with Bullshop's Bullplate Sprue lube applied on the alighnment pins, top of mold and underside of sprue plate and hinge. I heat them up prior to use by dipping an end corner into the hot alloy and I also control the temperatures with a wet sponge in a saucer if the temps rise too much. A pid controller on the pot and in a drilled hole in the mold keeps me on top of the temperatures instantly as I set an alarm to go off if the mold temps rise too much. The pid controller keeps the pot's temp within a decent range for casting.

    For the money you spend on a Lee mold you get fantastic value. They are easy to use, light in weight and can be maintained easily. However all that being said NOE and Mihec's molds are just the best around although more expensive. For my rifles: Two Garands, a custom Mauser in 6.5x55, CZ 547FS in .223, 8MM commercial mauser, .30 Carbine, 2 38-55's, a pair of 303's and a 50-90 Sharpes I splurged for the best molds as accuracy is very important to me. In the 38's and 45's the Lee's are good enough. For the 9mm's, 327 Mag's, 357's used for silleywets, 41 Mag's and 44's I went for the best molds I could find and I use Dillons Dies on Dillon equipment to assemble them.

    The PC thing had got me good and almost all of my boolits get PC'd as it makes the lubing a thing of the past and keeps my equipment clean and usable for a longer period of time. It takes more steps and requires more attention than lubing but the results are worth the effort and anything that I do in the reloading room is fun for me and it seems that I spend more time there than out shooting. Isn't that normal for us...……..
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