Is this Winchester a good deal??

[koger]

I agree with SWheeler. And for the record, every 670 or birch stocked 30/06 or 270 I have ever shot was a shooter. I gave $250 for one in 1984.

[Shawlerbrook]

Assuming a good bore $250 is not an outrageous asking price. That said, you should be able to do a little better and at $200-225 it would be a great buy. Great project gun. I am thinking some new furniture and a trip to JES for a 35 Whelen rebore.

[Lloyd Smale]

id buy it for that. Stocks are easy to refinish or just camo and a barrel can easily be taken down to bare metal and matt black duracoated or even cheaper brownells alumi-hyde. Ive had a few of those push feed Winchesters and all were excellent shooters. 250 bucks and a bit of elbow grease and 50 bucks in alumi hyde and you have your self a gun that's far better then one of the entry level bolt guns today. If it was around here it would be home allready.

[toallmy]

I have been looking for a model 70 push feed with the drop plate for a year or so as a project but have been unable to find one for 350 or so even in ruff shape . I would have already brought it home .

[rickys2]

surface rust on barrel. Not good! bring a light and look into the barrel for rust. If it looks good offer him $200

[indian joe]

Without looking at it, my gut tells me $250 is too much if it is as you described. I would offer $150 and be prepared to walk away. But that is just me. The push feed model 70's aren't anything really special.

I have an early push feed model 70 -- wouldnt swap if for a pre 64 mauser action even if you offered me extra cash - (a 22/250) ran it hard all its life and it never faltered - under the gunk finish there was a piece of walnut would cost you a tidy sum these days.

[indian joe]

Without looking at it, my gut tells me $250 is too much if it is as you described. I would offer $150 and be prepared to walk away. But that is just me. The push feed model 70's aren't anything really special.

I have an early push feed model 70 -- wouldnt swap if for a pre 64 mauser action even if you offered me extra cash - (a 22/250) ran it hard all its life and it never faltered - under the gunk finish there was a piece of walnut would cost you a tidy sum these days.

[kens]

Well, I would have already if it wasn't 30-06 length.
If it was .308/243 length, it would be home already.
Around here, 30-06 is not needed for deer, this is 30-30 country woods, hence my no-need for '06.
Even if I transformed it into a cast boolit launcher, I still dont need '06 length.

[Lloyd Smale]

id about agree if it weren't for the fact I could get more for a pre 64 trading for a NEW control round fed featherweight which is probably the nicest Winchester standard production rifle ever. I personaly think the pre 64s were about as ugly as the first of the post 64s and the post 64 push feeds out shot the old ones hands down. I had two pre 64s a 308 and an o6 and don't miss them a bit. Like you ive owned post 64s and push feeds since I was a young man and have never had one fail to feed. Wasn't much of a fan of pressed checkering and poor fitting and those first brush on finishes but they did shoot.

I have an early push feed model 70 -- wouldnt swap if for a pre 64 mauser action even if you offered me extra cash - (a 22/250) ran it hard all its life and it never faltered - under the gunk finish there was a piece of walnut would cost you a tidy sum these days.

[murf205]

LLoyd's right. The push feed guns will out shoot the older guns easily plus you get a great trigger to boot. I had a push feed 270 that was a 3/4" gun with almost anything I fed it and the rifle would feed an empty case from the magazine as easily as a loaded round. One of the smoothest rifles I ever owned. If you shoot it and like it,the birch stock could be replaced by a Boyd's walnut for a bit over $100. As far as you living in 30-30 woods, you can always load it down. Offer $200 out the door. Pawn shops typically do not have much $ tied up in guns.

[Texas by God]

Until they went back to CRF, ALL post 64 m70s were long action regardless of caliber.

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[cwtebay]

Until they went back to CRF, ALL post 64 m70s were long action regardless of caliber.

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That's interesting. I have always been curious why the 308 and 243's I've had were on LA. Thanks for clearing that up for me.

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[fatelk]

Some of my favorite guns are well-worn older ones. It's interesting just how cheap you can find some diamonds in the rough occasionally. I bought an old Rem 721 a few years back, for something like $180 as I recall. The stock was destroyed; someone had completely butchered it and there was simply no salvage. I posted about it back then, and a generous member on here sold me a very usable stock he had laying around, for almost nothing. It fit perfectly and looks great, just an older gun with honest wear.

If I was looking for a basic, older hunting rifle like that, I'd buy it, even if the price wasn't negotiable if the bore is good. If it's a decent shooter, that seems like a pretty good price to me, probably a better value and definitely better quality than most of the newer budget bolt action rifles in that price range nowadays.

Another similar rifle I bought, I found at a pawn shop a while back. Actually on thinking back, it was the summer of '02, a very memorable time for me. It was a Rem 700 in .308. I think I paid $150. The bore was a sewer pipe and the stock had ugly Krylon on it. I bought it for the action, and now it's a very different rifle. It has a heavy, fluted, stainless .308 barrel, and a heavy, custom, myrtlewood stock on it. I was just shooting it yesterday.

[richhodg66]

I've had several of the push feed ones and they are good rifles, always thought the claw extractor thing was over rated.

That would be a much better deal than starting with an unaltered milsurp and nicer rifle than the current entry level ones, though it probably won't shoot any better. Hard to beat a basic bolt action in .30-06, I think I'd get it for $250 if I was in the market for a rifle like that.

[Gtek]

Post 64 short actions are real, more than a few live here. The statement 06 length not needed, kind of sounds like you are trying to talk yourself out of a purchase. Anyway in regard to the close range remark, just in case you have never seen a very well placed 180-220 flat nosed boolit between 1800-2200 FPS they will harvest very well. The longer case neck (like in the 30 WCF) is a good thing for squirting long lead, short action calibers usually have short necks. The Grand Ol'- 06 is hard to beat for a general caliber and just about every place that sells anything ammo has something in 06 on shelf. Used barrels are cheap and easy, 1/4" wrench will usually get you under a 3lb trigger. Price has crept up a little on parts but still reasonable and out there. Your either a flat bottom receiver guy or not, your call.

[murf205]

I've had several of the push feed ones and they are good rifles, always thought the claw extractor thing was over rated.

That would be a much better deal than starting with an unaltered milsurp and nicer rifle than the current entry level ones, though it probably won't shoot any better. Hard to beat a basic bolt action in .30-06, I think I'd get it for $250 if I was in the market for a rifle like that.

Right you are brother. After all, the American military hunts the most dangerous game in the world with a "push feed " Remington 700 with an extractor that gun writers have cursed for years.

[white eagle]

most definitely worth it
you can scrap the barrel and put on a new barrel
a stock bottom metal and action are worth 250 alone

[Texas by God]

The M1 Garand and the Lee Enfield are also push feed.

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[Texas by God]

I found a 1975 Winchester catalog. I had forgotten about the 70A- I dont think I've ever seen one.

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[izzyjoe]

I'd jump on it if you want a project, to me sporting up a milsurp is a thing of days gone bye! Unless you can do all the work yourself, and you are still better off with the 70 for resale, but they are good shooter!