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  1. 12-09-2019, 07:49 AM #1
    Gottafly725
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    Help Identify .22 long rifle

    Need help identifying manufacture of a Royal Junior .22 Long Rifle. This rifle was my dads and would like to learn more about and also find replacement parts for the firing pin. Any help would be very grateful!!!

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  2. 12-09-2019, 08:15 AM #2
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    It looks just like a Remington number six.
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  3. 12-09-2019, 08:28 AM #3
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    Hopkins and Allen 722. Parts are probably nonexistent. Small parts are low hanging fruit for any decent gunsmith. Good luck.
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  4. 12-09-2019, 10:35 AM #4
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    We just make what we need on them. I don't know who would actually have parts.
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  5. 12-09-2019, 11:12 AM #5
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    Firing Pin for that should be a breeze for a hobbyist machinist to make. Right now Numrich shows a pic of a 722 Firing Pin but Out of Stock with a price of $13.

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  6. 12-09-2019, 03:26 PM #6
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    I'm going to call it a Stevens No 14 1/2 Little Scout, made 1911-1933. From Frank de Haas "Single Shot Rifles and Actions, page 142.
    I don't think I have any more parts, but I will look.
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  7. 12-09-2019, 03:45 PM #7
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    Royal Junior is an Hopkins Allen, parts are pretty nonexistent. I found one cheap but could not find any repair parts, let it go rather than start making them. Your Dads rifle, well learning machine work is worthwhile.
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  8. 12-09-2019, 04:16 PM #8
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    Not sure but had a H/A 822 and parts might interchange
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  9. 12-09-2019, 04:27 PM #9
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    Check out Jack First, his shop can make what you need.
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  10. 12-09-2019, 09:47 PM #10
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    Take a drill bit the diameter of the FP. Cut off shank and chuck it up in drill and use a file to shape it, file in notch for keeper screw. Heat cherry red and quench in oil. My great uncle had one of same gun with barrel cut to about 10" with homemade pistol grip made from a saw handle. Had the brass nut off a 6v battery on breech block piece. It was his hog gun he kept hanging out in a tool shed. Me & Bro thought it was a pirate pistol when we were kids. It's a good thing unc kept it for hogs because you couldn't hit a bull in the butt with it.
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  11. 12-10-2019, 02:44 AM #11
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    Yup. "Enders Royal" and "Royal" were just a couple of about a hundred trade names under which Hopkins and Allen guns were sold. I've got a 722 somewhere, but it's actually marked Hopkins and Allen. A weak action, only safe with AT MOST subsonic ammo.

    Numrich might have something.
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