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Thread: That Defining Moment Between Father and Son

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    That Defining Moment Between Father and Son

    Like most kids growing up in the late 50s and 60s, 70s I had confortations and fights. My Dad was good about discussing my problems with me. During my elementary school days he would counsel me on fights and offer tips.

    Dad grew up in Ohio in a very racially diverse area. Not just Black and White, but many different races which stuck to their own neighborhoods/turfs. Because of this Dad said he had to fight his way to and from school almost daily. Needless to say, he had lots of war stories.

    As a teenager I realized that I was smarter than dad and he was full of beans. I began to realize all of those fight stories were BS. Dad wasnít around much coming from a time when husbands believed the wife should not work, but stay home. He wasnít around to help me work on my car or hang out. He had a trucking business to run.

    One day he came home and walked past me as I was raising the hood on my 68 SS396 Camaro. He looked over at the engine and said ďwhereís the air cleanerĒ. It had a nice big fancy chrome air cleaner which was quite noticeable when gone. I told him that I had the car at the Shell Station for some carburetor adjustments and that they stole it. Dadís demeanor instantly changed like Iíve never seen. He said to get in his car.

    We went over to the Shell station and Robert and Dub were in the garage. Robert wasnít much older than me, Dub was probably close to Dadís age. I never saw Dub without a cigarette hanging off of his lip. He had one of those hard leathery tans year round and had his Camels rolled up in his shirt sleeve. To a 16 year old kid, he came across as a tuff guy.

    Dad was polite at first asking for the air cleaner that cost more than full Saturday and Sundayís pay for me. Dub kept saying that I brought the car in without it. Then Dad got very firm and said he must really be a tough guy bullying a 16 year old kid and was going to kick Dubís butt for calling me a liar.

    Thatís when it happened...... Dub raised his leg and put his foot on the tire of a car in the garage which tightened his pants leg and printed the 25 auto in his pants pocket. It didnít phase Dad at all. Dad said ďI see that 25 in your pocket. If thatís the way you want to play let me get my 38 out of my car and we can go in the alley and play games.Ē Word for word on that quote, I will always remember that.

    Well Dubís tanned face immediately changed colors. He didnít say a word. He just lowered his foot and walked to the back of the shop, took a hard right into the parts room and came out with the air cleaner. He offered it to Dad, but Dad said ď donít give it to me, it belongs to this boy that you pushed aroundĒ. Dub hated handing that over to me, especially with Robert standing there watching as well.

    Thatís when I realized ALL of Dadís stories were true. And I sure was proud of him.


    Dad always referred to his Llama 38 Super as ďthe 38Ē. Itís a 60s or earlier vintage and quite dependable unlike many later Llamas.



    Iíll always keep this ď38Ē to remember Dad by. He sure loved this gun, enough to bet his life on it!
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    Nice!

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    Great story and nice looking piece.

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    Great story! I doubted my dad’s toughness once as a rebellious teen- only ONCE.

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    This made my day. Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Texas by God View Post
    Great story! I doubted my dad’s toughness once as a rebellious teen- only ONCE.
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    I have always had a special relationship with the model 1911 it was the year my dad was born and the first center fire pistol I had ever shot. That came in the Army so many light years ago. Still love the 1911 and yes I would bet my life on it still today.
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    Thanks for sharing the excellent story!
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    I grew up in Long Island New York. I wound up in a trade that was the same trade my father spent his entire life in, collision repair. I was the youngest of 6 kids four brothers and a sister , and I guess you could say the accident , My mom always told me she thought she was too old to have anymore children. Anyway my dad died when I was 13 and he was 56 so I never really heard any of the real tales about his goings-on . I knew it was a tough guy but never really knew how tough. Freeport Long Island was a funny town still had all the same autobody shops that were there when my dad was a young man, just different owners. I actually worked in the shop that my father helped built in the 40s I saw his name and date on the floor in concrete . Funny thing about men that work in hard labor trade. They are usually known to imbibe in a beverage or two after hours if you get my meaning . Along with all those collision repair shops the same bars were in the same locations . I was known to frequent just about all of them as a young man. It was the thing to do . I generally would have couple of drinks and then head on home . Just a way to relax after work . If I lived to be 1000 I’ll never forget this one particular time . There I was in a corner having a couple of beers mind my own business and this older Rather large guy started in on me . You have to realize this was the 70s now and my hair was shoulderlength . As the verbal diarrhea flew from this guy‘s mouth I looked around for pool stick, empty bottle, or something to use as an equalizer. I knew it was common as guy had a following . Now I don’t remember the guys name but just about the time the do do was getting ready to hit the fan the bartender pipes up and says hey so-and-so you know who that is ? The guy says what do you mean ? The bartender proceeds to tell him, and I quote “ that’s Al Jankoski‘s youngest son”! Well this big dude turned white as a sheet instead they’re open mouth for a second . He then proceeded to walk towards me with his tail between his legs and ask are you really Al’s son? I said yes I am looking him square in a eye! Not only did he buy me several drinks that night every time he was in there when I was there I had drinks bought for me. One day I finally asked the bartender what the deal was . The bartender told me that one day, back in 60s , the big dude his brother, and his father, had picked a fight with my father. Much the same way as he was about to pick a fight with me. It seems that not only did my father kick all three of their butts, he broke the guys father’s arm in three places ! As I got older I heard many many many more stories about my dad . I know some were embellished upon but for the most part I believe them all as I question my older brothers and my mother about him. And yes my dad was one tough SOB !
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    Thank you Lubdude for your story. Touched me deep. I have young kids, but am looking forward to those moments with my sons and daughter.
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    I don't always agree with or get along with my dad, but I do respect him. I think that's important. He has strong principles and has accomplished some impressive things in his life.

    A younger guy I work with makes me sad. He refers to his dad as a "stupid old man". I don't care if that's who his father really is; it's just so terribly disrespectful to say something like that.

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    In reading these posts, I am reminded of a saying/quote made by Samuel Clemens, or most would know him by his "pen name" of "Mark Twain", who wrote quite a few books like, Huckleberry Finn & The Adventures of Tom Sawyer, just to name a couple...



    The saying Clemens/Twain said, was,

    “When I was a boy of 14, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to have the old man around.

    But when I got to be 21, I was astonished at how much the old man had learned in seven years.”
    ― Mark Twain

    How true that saying has been for me & I reckon so for many others...
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    This post makes me sad in that there are still a lot of times I wish could ask my Dad what he thought.

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    I grew up in Cleveland. I used to have a helluva a sprint but though I hate to admit it, I also had a crosman 1911 look alike that fired darts, bb's or pellets. I used to have it in my backpack for the walk home and it scared the hell out of bullies. I realize the foolishness now but i guess you could say it was different in the 90's

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    My Mom gave me Dad's M12 last Christmas . Lots of memories .

    Thanks for sharing guys .
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    My dad is not a big man.... 5'8 on a good day, and maybe 165 in his prime. I only had to watch my older brother challenge him once, to know that I never would. The wily old Navy vet landed 3 or 4 'soft' shots to big brothers chest in about .3 seconds, and then gently picked him up, told him he loved him, and walked away.....

    As a parent today......I learned SO MUCH from that moment. Dad didn't hit him.....he educated him.
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    I grew up in LA in the 1950's & 1960's. Had 3 Brothers. My Dad boxed in his younger days, taught all his boys to box.
    Folks divorced in 1965, Dad married the woman who destroyed our family. Spent his tax money on her, so My Mother lost our Home to IRS Tax Seizure just before the divorce was final.

    Had a lot of pent up anger. Still do.

    But I remember Father's Day 1975. I had just got out of the U.S. Navy after 4 years, had been to VN. Survived a lot of Barroom brawls. Thought I was tough.
    My Sister had arranged a Father's Day lunch for the 3 of Us. Between 1968 and 1974, My 3 Brothers had all died. I was angry, I was no longer allowed in My Father's house or to even Call him there.
    On top of everything else my Dad's house had been burglarized a year earlier, almost every gun was taken. Close to 100 guns. Was probably stepdaughters boyfriend. Since the guns were hidden in a concealed alcove in the attic. Had to move a sewing machine cabinet to get to the hidden door.

    Well to get on with it. My sister and I got into an argument before we even left for the restaurant. I said I was leaving and headed for the Door, My Dad stepped in front of me.

    I cocked back my fist.

    Woke up on the floor. Felt like I had been hit with an axe handle right between the eyes.

    Forgot Dad was 3rd Runner up in the 3rd Fleet, Heavywright Division in 1944.

    We went on to lunch, by the time lunch was over I had two black eyes and a 3" lump on my forehead.

    Things seem to be better between Us after that.
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    Thats a cool story! Thanks for posting it.

    I wasn't real close to my Dad when I lived at home. But I'm thankful to have gotten to know him better before he passed away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frosty Boolit View Post
    I grew up in Cleveland. I used to have a helluva a sprint but though I hate to admit it, I also had a crosman 1911 look alike that fired darts, bb's or pellets. I used to have it in my backpack for the walk home and it scared the hell out of bullies. I realize the foolishness now but i guess you could say it was different in the 90's
    OP here, Cleveland is where Dad grew up in the 30s-40s. I reckon the neighborhoods stayed the same all of those years.
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    Sure enjoyed all the other stories. I hope more folks post theirs.
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