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Thread: CCI-209M or CCI-209

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    CCI-209M or CCI-209

    Im looking to load #4 buckshot I have a whole mess of CCI-209 primers,
    can it be used here instead of the 209P primer?
    everything else will be exactly as listed

    or am i playing with bad boom

    thanks
    John

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    Shell: 2 3/4" REMINGTON STS, OR NITRO 27, OR GUN CLUB PLASTIC SHELLS

    Load Type | Gauge | Shot Wt. | Powder | Primer | Wad | Powder Wt. (Gr.) | Pressure | Vel. (ft/s)

    Lead Buckshot | 12 | 27-#4 LEAD BUCKSHOT | HS-6 | CCI 209M | WAA12R | 30.5 | 9,700 PSI | 1250
    Lead Buckshot | 12 | 27-#4 LEAD BUCKSHOT | HS-6 | CCI 209M | WAA12R | 31.5 | 10,400 PSI | 1300

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    I’m a rebel ... as long as the primer isn’t loose I’ll interchange them in recipes.

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    your changing from a magnum primer down to a regular primer, not familiar enough with hs-6 to predict what the load will do.
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    I’ve loaded close to 1/2 million shotgun shells over the last 35 years . Granted most were for clay targets . But I’ve loaded around a two thousand or so I’d say that were buck or slugs . I use 209’s be it WIN , CCI or REM interchangeably with no adverse affects . Not to say that’ll work for you but that’s what I’ve done over the years . As to the CCI 209M I have some of them as well , but to be honest they were purchased to be used in my Knight Disc Rifle muzzleloaders , but if I was short on regular 209’s and needed to load something quick I used the 209M’s . Another factor none of my slug/buck loads are balls to the wall hot .
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    Quote Originally Posted by TjB101 View Post
    I’m a rebel ... as long as the primer isn’t loose I’ll interchange them in recipes.
    You are treading on thin ice here, sir!

    OP - In the case of these loads, subbing regular primers for magnum primers will probably have no adverse effects. With slower burning powders such as HS-6 you will notice unburned powder granules left in your barrel resulting in poor ballistic performance. OTOH, subbing mags for regulars may drive pressures dangerously high depending on the load.

    http://www.armbrust.acf2.org/primersubs.htm
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Abbreviations used in Reloading

BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
GC Gas Check