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    45 colt dies for loading 454 casull

    I have a batch of brass coming to load up some 454 casull. Lee lists the same carbide crimp die for both are the same. Could I use my Lee 45 colt dies to load 454 casull?

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    Back in 1988 I used RCBS .45Colt Carbide dies made in 1977 to Load .454Casull. I purchased a Lyman M-die for the .45Colt and turned the RCBS Expander ball down to .448, worked like a charm.

    I wouldn't consider Lee, I've had problems. Spend the extra money to buy RCBS or more to buy Redding to start with.
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    I don't see why your 45 Colt dies would not work. Of course you will have to readjust the seating and crimping die.

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    If your resizing die is long enough the there is no problem. I use my 45 colt for my 454's but mine are RCBS carbide. Not much different from 44spcl to 44 mag.
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    Thanks for the replies everyone. I was hoping it would be situation like 44mag/special. Sounds like I will just need to try it out and make lots of measurements along the way.
    Btw, what’s so bad about Lee dies? I find them to be affordable and functional. I did basically wear out my 223 depriming/sizing die. Basically the staked primers beat it up and now deprime/sizing ball get pushed up too easily. I added an rcbs universal deprime die to the set and we’re cranking out AR food all day.

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    It seems to me that the sizer die for the 454 casull sizes a little smaller than 45 lc sizer ! but this may only be with casings fried in another brand if 454 and then be used in a min dimension chamber FA 454.
    I use the Lee factory crimp die for crimping only full power loads with Jacketed bullets as it duplicates the factory FA ammo crimp which is flattened into the fill height of the bullet cannalure

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobthenailer View Post
    It seems to me that the sizer die for the 454 casull sizes a little smaller than 45 lc sizer ! but this may only be with casings fried in another brand if 454 and then be used in a min dimension chamber FA 454.
    I use the Lee factory crimp die for crimping only full power loads with Jacketed bullets as it duplicates the factory FA ammo crimp which is flattened into the fill height of the bullet cannalure
    Do you use the Lee collet crimp or carbide Factory crimp die ?

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    For full power loads & jacketed bullets using 454 brass fired in 3- FA 454 revolvers I use the lee carbide factory crimp die for the 45 lc. the FA factory ammo flattens the crimp the whole width of the crimp grove of the bullet

    Since FA revolvers have min chambers spec and use a slightly smaller sizer die than 45lc you will probly never use/ need the carbide ring . some other brands of 454 have larger chambers than FA

    For cast loads I use a 45lc taper crimp up to 1000fps , over 1000 fps cast and mid range jacketed I use a Redding pro crimp die which is a combo roll & taper crimp.

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    Except for the shell holder being different, you can use .45 ACP dies to load .45 win mag, 45 Colt, .454, .460 S&W, .45 Schofield, and .45 Auto Rim.

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