I am loading lyman’s 358430 195 grain for my 1894C at about 1100 FPS (38 special load with 2400 from lyman’s 45th edition) that is water dropped and wonderfully accurate in my micro groove marlin. I know I can increase the velocity to what would be a reduced velocity 35 Remington load with a 357 case. That blunt round nose I feel would smack like a SWC. Maybe someone else would chime in on how effective it is on deer in either caliber. I of course would not expect any expansion since water quenched.