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Thread: Scoping a Rook and rabbit rifle

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    Quote Originally Posted by LawrenceA View Post
    Always wondered how a 30 Herret would go in a martini??
    Me too.
    I’m kicking myself because I saw a reamer and complete die set for sale reasonble-ish priced and never bought it.

    I’ve wondered how much quieter a say 32s&w with a 26 inch barrel would be compared to a 310 cadet or 32-20 or such at moderate speed.

    Are the larger bores quieter with the same weight projectile.

    Just thinking of what IS the quietest out there with in reasonable limits?

    Maybe a bull pup with a long barrel or would it still make ones ears ring.

    A 16" barrel and 29.5" long is minimum I think in all states over here.

    Take 30" barrel and add 6" for a stock it would be still handy..
    Maybe heavy thou.hmmmmm
    Scope wouldn’t be in the way of loading and I could use the peep and post creed more style.
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    Just laying under a tree shooting bunnies.
    Last edited by barrabruce; 11-27-2019 at 05:51 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barrabruce View Post
    Me too.
    I’m kicking myself because I saw a reamer and complete die set for sale reasonble-ish priced and never bought it.

    I’ve wondered how much quieter a say 32s&w with a 26 inch barrel would be compared to a 310 cadet or 32-20 or such at moderate speed.

    Are the larger bores quieter with the same weight projectile.

    Just thinking of what IS the quietest out there with in reasonable limits?

    Maybe a bull pup with a long barrel or would it still make ones ears ring.

    A 16" barrel and 29.5" long is minimum I think in all states over here.

    Take 30" barrel and add 6" for a stock it would be still handy..
    Maybe heavy thou.hmmmmm
    Scope wouldn’t be in the way of loading and I could use the peep and post creed more style.
    Ha
    Just laying under a tree shooting bunnies.
    I shoot a suppressed 16.5"bbl .300BLK CVA V2 single shot and have loaded a bunch of powders and bullet weights looking for the quietest load.

    I found that light weight bullets loaded with very fast shotgun powder will give the quietest load. I ended up using tiny charges of TiteWad (not titegroup) and slippery shaped .30 carbine bullets to come up with my quietest load. Hearing safe unsuppressed and air rifle quiet suppressed. Also very cheap.
    Dan Wesson 744V .44mag, S&W Mod 19-4 .357 , Stevens 200 .223

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    Thnx Steve
    I presume then a 120rn grain bullet in the 310 cadet over a minimal charge of bullseye is about as quiet I can hope for in a 25" barrel and being legal.

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    I put a red dot on one of my rollers and love it.
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    Week or so back at the range, I was next to a chap shooting a 310 rook rifle with iron sights at 100 yards, I swear the only noise the gun made was the click as the hammer dropped. It was a break-barrel hammer gun, I think it was a Rigby but can't remember. He was shooting reloads but I never enquired about his load.
    His groups were pretty good for a v groove and post sights too.

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    Well I’ve ended up getting a leupy 2-7x rimfire freedom scope with cds turrets to replace my m8 8x. That couldn’t get fixed.

    It hopefully will do for most things I want to use it for.

    See if it shapes up to expectations.
    Thanks for the different options.
    I was even thinking of Either the red dot with turrents would be a useful thing but I need Some power to define things these days or even the 1-4xscout scope with 6 inches of eye relief which would I think could just pass the front of the cadet action even if the stock had to be a bit short.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephen Cohen View Post
    If you have not decided on the actual round, may I suggest a 300 Blackout rimmed. The shells are made by simply running 357 magnum shells into a blackout size die, the necks will be about 1mm shorter than the actual blackout which means nothing. I have just made one for my grandsons first rifle. Regards Stephen
    Would it work if you just ran a 300 blackout reamer a bit short and ground the dies back abit.
    Then you’d have a 300 blk rimmed short. With cases full length to chamber.
    How do the cases come out for neck thickness when fire formed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barrabruce View Post
    Would it work if you just ran a 300 blackout reamer a bit short and ground the dies back abit.
    Then you’d have a 300 blk rimmed short. With cases full length to chamber.
    How do the cases come out for neck thickness when fire formed.
    I have a rifle I built from a Yildiz folding 410 shotgun that is chambered in a shortened 300 blk out just as you described. I took .060 off the bottom of the loading dies and it forms a perfect rimmed cartridge with 357 mag. brass. The neck is the same length as a standard 300 blk out but the OAL of the brass is .060 shorter which pushes the shoulder back the same amount so no one could put a regular 300 blk out in the gun and close it.
    Mine is a aluminum alloy frame so I don't load the cartridges to high pressures or high velocities, I left the standard shotgun firing pin in the frame and it limits how hot you can load cartridges before the primers start to flow into the firing pin hole and make it hard to open the action after firing.

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BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
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