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    Help identify top punches?

    I recently purchased a group of top punches and included were several of these with the round top. The punch number is stamped on the perimeter of the "belt". At first I thought they might be older RCBS but the numbers do not appear to match up with RCBS and Lyman numbers. Any help would be appreciated.

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    Vintage Ideal top punches is what you have.

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    If the numbers donít match with the current Lyman numbers, itís not likely that theyíre the earlier Ideal top punches, although they used to feature those rounded tops.

    If the top shank is longer than the normal Lyman/Ideal length, they could be for the pre-Redding SAECO lubrisizer. Mine will fit Lyman/Ideal top punches, although the holding screw only engages the very end of the shank.

    Later SAECO machines, and the Redding versions, used a different top punch that was threaded in.

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    I was wondering if they might possibly be old Saeco punches but wasn't sure. The numbers definitely don't match up with Lyman.

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    what are the numbers, because those are ideal punches and a lot were discontinued numbers by 1975 and wont be on a modern list (post #43 manual)

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    Maybe old Lachmiller. They used to mark top punches around the top "band"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Littlewolf View Post
    what are the numbers, because those are ideal punches and a lot were discontinued numbers by 1975 and wont be on a modern list (post #43 manual)
    I have #241, #420, #438, #464 and #469.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walks View Post
    Maybe old Lachmiller. They used to mark top punches around the top "band"
    Ah, I didn't think about Lachmiller. These are indeed marked on the outside edge of the "band".

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    311241, 225438, 257420, 277464, 277469 off the top of my head. I don’t have the old Lyman #1 CB manual handy, but someone who does can check.
    I pulled out the old manual- the bullets they fit are 225438- 45gr RNGC, 257420 - 70gr FNGC, 257464 RNGC Loverin, 266469 140r RNGC Loverin, and 311241 125 or 150gr RNPB.
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