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    Herter's Super Model 9

    Found this Veterans Day, spent today cleaning it up.
    Can not find much information about it.
    Seems to be a good press.
    Anyone have one?Click image for larger version. 

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    That is Herter's first press from 1952/53. In those days there was a connection between Herter's and Dunbar, the presses are sort of alike though there are several significant differences. But, it is thought it was made by Dunbar. Herter's and Dunbar sold the same powder measure, but with very different mounts. Herter's used the Model 9 for about a year before it was replaced with the Model 3 Super, which is a copy of the Lachmiller Model 100.

    It's a good, strong and very well made press even though the paint used was not so durable.

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    Looks like a well built heavy duty press!

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    I have one. Only one I've ever seen in the flesh. Took a bit to clean it up but everything moves now. I still need to mount it up and load some ammo on it one day.

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    I passed one of these up at a yard sale years ago. Don't remember if it was a Dunbar or Herter's but it was interesting in the extreme. One glance at the price tag was enough though. Twenty bucks! (I wasn't making much money back then).

    My rear end STILL hurts from kicking myself.............

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    Looks like it’s pretty stout!

    Just one question, though. What kind of shell holders does it take? The holes look almost like it would need to be something like a Lyman J-type.

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    It takes the Hollywood/C-H "H" type.
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    The press was found in a old house covered in grease along with a few other reloading tools.Click image for larger version. 

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    Shell Holders for 30-30 and 30-06 were included
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    1&2 marked 1
    3rd marked RCBS 3
    4th unmarked

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    Those are awesome. The shell holders look like a Lathe man's job to make. I think I'd end up trying to make an adapter for those.

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    Well, I kind of have one of these. About 20 years ago I bought a bunch of reloading stuff form a local pawn shop sight unseen. All was from an estate sale from a man who had a machine shop for decades. My press is homemade but an almost exact duplication of the Dunbar. Weighs about the same as my old Hollywood 12 hole turret. Works great. Also had homemade adjustable powder meadures, powder trickler, and several dies. He had made it with a shellholder adapter for standard holders held in with a set screw like the Herters presses used.
    Had no idea what it had been patterned after but a quick description to Pressman and he came back with the Dunbar name. Thanks again Ken. What a wealth of knowledge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RIHP View Post
    The press was found in a old house covered in grease along with a few other reloading tools.Click image for larger version. 

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    I bought that same old Pacific press at a gun show for $15 a while back, I had a new ram that takes modern shell holders, so have been cleaning it up off and on, I plan on it becoming a "portable" set up. I painted mine a nice light blue.

    I also have one of those powder measures like that one somewhere in Dad's stuff. I like these old tools.

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    RIHP, the unmarked 4th is a Hollywood. 1&2 are probably C-H.
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    RIHP, that powder measure on the left is pretty desirable too, if didn’t already know it. It’s a #5, made first by Ideal around the turn of the last century and continued by Lyman (still with the Ideal name) all the way up to WW II. After the war Lyman redesigned the body casting and initially kept the same rotor assembly to start making the #55 which, with modifications and improvements, is still available today. Your cast iron #5 was a very nice addition to the other stuff!

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    Yes, that is a Lyman made No 5. As the esteemed frog person says you can swap the rotor for a #55 micrometer rotor for an update if you should desire. It's a direct swap, no modifications.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pressman View Post
    Yes, that is a Lyman made No 5. As the esteemed frog person says you can swap the rotor for a #55 micrometer rotor for an update if you should desire. It's a direct swap, no modifications.
    Believe it or not, I find the slides on the earlier rotors faster and less frustrating to adjust than the standard #55 slides. Of course the #5 Micrometer and #55 Culver conversion units are nice if you can get them.

    I just seem to gravitate toward the old #5... it's about bullet proof and other than losing the little cast iron top or allowing the rotor to get gummed up (or heaven forbid, rusted or corroded) there's not much that can go wrong with them. They just keep following me home on a regular basis!

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    Is there a scale in that Redding bullet and powder scale box.
    Was my first scale.
    Still use it. Good to .1 grain, but didn't have a magnetic damper.
    Used an oil reservoir with a paddle to slow the oscillation of the beam.
    Mine was purchased about 1960 for 14.95 at gun store in St.Louis. Never saw another except in catalogues till now.
    Also thanks for showing pics of the Herter shell holders.

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