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Thread: Winchester M1917 Sight Question

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    Boolit Bub
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    Winchester M1917 Sight Question

    I put this post on the wrong board. Starting this thread on the military rifle board.

    Finally found and picked up a Winchester M1917. Its in great shape and shoots wonderfully. Almost scary accurate given its age. So here is some background on the sight questions. I understand how to use the ladder sight/battle sight and I don't believe that is the issue here. But, in order for it to hit Point of Aim at either 50 or 100 yards I have to set the rear ladder sight on the 400 yard setting. With the rear ladder sight set at 200 it will print 8-10 inches low at 50! That's definitely not right and of course it would be almost twice that at 100. I know there are multiple different front sight blades but in this case, the lowest one wouldn't get close. I have also read that the P14 front sight base has a different height but don't know if its taller or shorter. The P14 front sight base also has a slightly larger ring to go around the barrel but my reading says they have been found on M1917s. OK ... here comes the questions:

    1) Am I missing something? I don't believe the rear sight is the issue.
    2) Is it possible that I have a P14 front sight base and it is taller than the M1917?
    3) With the proper sight/sight blade how should the M1917 print at 200 yards? Is it POA/POI or should it be X inches high?

    A little more info on the rifle. Its a Winchester built in Aug 1918. Barrel appears to be original and markings point to that. Bore is awesome with sharp rifling and pretty bright. With the sight set at 400 I was able to shoot a 5 round 1 1/2 group at 100 yards with my load using a 168 Gr Hornady Match bullet and IMR 4895. Except for 4 parts, everything is Winchester. Yes, the front sight base and blade are also marked W.

    Any suggestions??
    Last edited by mew; 10-30-2019 at 03:22 PM. Reason: Put this post on the wrong board.

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    See my post to you in the other thread you started. No need to post the question in two places.
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