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    Alliant MZ Powder

    I have been trying out some of the Alliant MZ powder out at the range...At first sight I thought it was very coarse n ext to 777 and pyrodex select and I had a problem feeding it through my dispenser....but I soon found the answer was to shake the dispenser a few times with my finger over the spout and the button depressed and that worked good..It fired up every time and after shooting it all morning in my inline and sidelock with reasonable results I decided I liked it and for $9.99 a pound I thought it was a great deal....I decided to buy another 10 lbs but found that Sportsmans Wherehouse online store has sold out...but....some of their stores still have some....of course here in N.FL there are no stores but I did find a store in Phoenix and they put 10 lbs on will pick up for me..and yes I just happen to be going there in two weeks so I will ship it back to myself..I think I will buy a cpl of extra pounds for LAG's to try...so if you like reasonable cheap powder and can find some in a store close to you...better get some quick

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    Boolit Master brewer12345's Avatar
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    Oh well. We knew it was just a matter of time. I have been buying a pound here and there at sportsman's, but I must have been burning it almost as fast as i was buying since I only have 3 pounds on hand.
    "If you see me running something has gone poorly, and you should probably run too." - any beekeeper

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    That is good to know.
    I have a Sportsman's Warehouse just five miles from my house.
    The other is clear on the north side of Phoenix.
    But I did see another one when I went to Flagstaff last weekend.
    I am up for trying new powders , since I can't seem to find the time to make more of my own BP.
    But I am working on that.

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    I knew you were a kindred spirit

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    Hey Guys,

    Just a heads up, Alliant Black MZ is being discontinued.
    When stock piles are gone, it's gone.
    Seems the $9.99 a pound are a thing of the past.
    https://www.modernmuzzleloader.com/t...lack-mz.33429/

    AntiqueSledMan.

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    You are right...It has been discontinued...I bought 10 lbs last month @ $9.99 a lb mail order....but the only powder left is whats in stores...I found a store and bought another 10 lbs...this will last me a long time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theditchman View Post
    You are right...It has been discontinued...I bought 10 lbs last month @ $9.99 a lb mail order....but the only powder left is whats in stores...I found a store and bought another 10 lbs...this will last me a long time
    A long time? Then you arenít doing it right!

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    Powders being Discontinued, or just hard to get, is the reason I want to make 90% of my own BP.
    That way , I can control what I have, and it seems that finding the Raw Materials to make my own powder is Easier and cheaper than testing some product, work up a good load, then to have it be discontinued.
    I knew how much powder I was using a month over the past years, But now that I am retired, I expect that amount to go up considerably once I get things settled into my new life.
    Plus having a moderate stockpile of Raw Materials, Is WAY Safer than storing a bunch of BP.
    I am not Current on the Local Laws,
    But I think out here, You can Legally only have 7 lbs of BP in your Home without a Permit from the Fire Department.
    But then again, that may be a carry over from what I remember from California.
    I will have to Look Into the current laws just to be safe.
    Last edited by LAGS; 10-27-2019 at 10:47 AM.

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    I,m with Lags on making my own. People do not shoot as much BP as they once did. Why would they make it if there is just not that much market? Besides I don't care
    because I only shoot real BP. I make my own for under $3 a Lb & enjoy the fun of shooting real BP.

    Fly

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    Don't Forget the fire workers.
    No trouble, No problem...

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    I,m a fire worker or once was. No one in fireworks I have ever met use substitutes. Most all make there own. Making
    fireworks is very expensive. That is why I don't do it as I once did.

    Fly

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    Fireworks making is Expensive.
    That is why they Sparkle

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    There is some listed on gunbroker at a reasonable price, although you would have to want several pounds to overcome the hazmat: https://www.gunbroker.com/item/842524535
    "If you see me running something has gone poorly, and you should probably run too." - any beekeeper

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    $35 Hazmat fee ???.....That must be his profit as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theditchman View Post
    $35 Hazmat fee ???.....That must be his profit as well
    Yeah. OTOH, try and find the stuff anywhere else.
    "If you see me running something has gone poorly, and you should probably run too." - any beekeeper

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    There is still plenty out there...look at the sportsmans wherehouse site and do a search for aliant mz and it will tell you all the stores that still have some in stock..if you dont mind a drive there is some in casper wy and there is still plenty in az...I am going to az next week and put 10 lbs on willcall in phoenix...I might get more and distribute it among my relatives until i need it..I love it...it gets a bit cruddy after about 15 shots but i just run a patch through and i'm good to go

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    I swab after every shot , except for when I am hunting.
    So minor fouling , or a build up over many shots is not a problem.
    All I expect from BP is Minute of Elk Accuracy.

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    I could pay for a lot of hazmat instead of driving hundreds of miles.
    "If you see me running something has gone poorly, and you should probably run too." - any beekeeper

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    I had real good luck with the stuff and wish you could still get it.

    The big question for me is (all speculation aside): does anyone know the real reason why they quit making it?

    Can we expect to see William Shatner or Henry Winkler advertising for Dewy Cheathem & Howe attorneys with an ad about some weird medical condition caused by the stuff and how to get compensated for just calling in ?

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    I believe I read that the factory that made it burned down.
    "If you see me running something has gone poorly, and you should probably run too." - any beekeeper

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