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    Speed green substitutes

    Folks,
    Long ago a fellow in Alaska was selling sprue plate lube and a bullet lube called speed green. The sprue plate lube was incredibly effective and the boolit lube was great. Apparently he passed or something as the mail I sent came back undeliverable.
    What can be used to substitute?

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    That was Bullshop. The item was 'bull plate'. Many have substituted 2-cycle oil. Check out the Elvis Ammo videos on youtube where he uses a wiping rag impregnated with either bull plate or 2-cycle oil. I've tried that technique and it's pretty slick (pun intended).
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    Many use the synthetic version of 2 stroke oil, myself included. It could be the synthetic stuff doesn't leave a build-up of residue over time?

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    For the shooting(boolit lube) part....

    Bullshop's Speed Green
    3 Parts Beeswax by weight
    1 part Bullplate lube
    Melt wax and thoroughly Mix in Bulplate

    You can either look over some of these lube recipes to find something similar:
    http://www.castpics.net/subsite/Lube/LubeFormulae.html

    Or, you can try to find something to replace the "bullplate" in the recipe above recipe.

    G'Luck!


    ETA - Bubbas Boat Lube on the link above looks to be similar & uses 2 cycle oil.

    Bubba's Boat Lube
    6 Lbs Beeswax
    1 Qt 2 cycle Marine Oil
    Melt wax and thoroughly Mix


    I can't say how well it works, but it is similar anyway. There may be some others to look over. Up to you to do it & decide what ya want to do though, Not me.
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    I found Speed Green to be a tacky mess when applying it, as well as when reloading. It would get on my fingers and then get on everything I touched, very messy.
    When you contact Bullshop, ask him about Lotak, it's a very similar lube that works just as well as Speed Green, if not better, and isn't a tacky mess to deal with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gutpile View Post
    Folks,
    Long ago a fellow in Alaska was selling sprue plate lube and a bullet lube called speed green. The sprue plate lube was incredibly effective and the boolit lube was great. Apparently he passed or something as the mail I sent came back undeliverable.
    What can be used to substitute?
    Synthetic two stroke oil ... the best one I've found (at walmat) was from Green Earth Technologies , 2 cycle Bio-Synthetic , no smoke , no smell . I've tried others and this one works best (I'm no tree hugger , the stuff really works best). It was the cheapest . The tiny bottle I bought will probably last me a lifetime .
    It was about $1.99 at wally mart.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JonB_in_Glencoe View Post
    I found Speed Green to be a tacky mess when applying it, as well as when reloading. It would get on my fingers and then get on everything I touched, very messy.
    When you contact Bullshop, ask him about Lotak, it's a very similar lube that works just as well as Speed Green, if not better, and isn't a tacky mess to deal with.
    I made some, and still have most of it. I liked it but just haven't used it in quite a while. Mine is hard to the touch and wasn’t messy at all. It would need some heat to go through a lube sizer. I’m not sure why you had such a different result.

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    Lotak is a great lube. Bullshop sent me some to test before he brought it out. If there is any drawback to using it, it is that you have to fire a few shots to condition the bore and get the best accuracy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by garandsrus View Post
    I made some, and still have most of it. I liked it but just haven't used it in quite a while. Mine is hard to the touch and wasn’t messy at all. It would need some heat to go through a lube sizer. I’m not sure why you had such a different result.
    I did buy my first pound of Speed Green from Bullshop. Since I didn't make that pound, I wouldn't know for 100% sure that it was made precisely to the published recipe.
    Also, that Speed Green didn't need heat to go through a lubsizer.
    I can say, after that experience, I did make a 'almost' clone recipe with a couple added ingredients (lanolin & reduced JPW)...when that recipe gave me purge fliers, I reduced the oil content to eliminate that issue...Also, that mostly eliminated the tackiness issue I had with it. Then that's about the time Bullshop came out with Lotak...So I set aside the Speed Green and the Clone. I bought some Lotak and really like it, and still use Lotak for 22 cal, even though I use SL68B in everything else.
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    Speed green is slightly lees than 1/3 oils to 16 ounces beeswax.... 5 ounces of added oils anymore and it with purge.

    I am selling TAC1 bullet lube now in the VS section
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    The last I heard Bullshop was in Dell, Montana. A more recent search could tell you what he is still selling if anything.
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    https://bullshop.weebly.com/bullets.html

    Bull plate is still available. It's not listed on the website but if you email them they still have it. In fact I sent them an email this morning looking for some myself.

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    I am selling a similar product if your interested in the VS section..As of today just PM me for prices and directions.

    Mine is called "ZIP LUBE"

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    I use Randy's tac-1 and it is a great lube. As for the sprue plate lube, it really don't take much. I have been using what was left of the zip lube
    in the making Tac-1. A little goes a long way.

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