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    Electric motor hp question

    I know that there's a lot smarter guys than me on this forum and this one has me baffled. I was given a new motor, but, the horsepower rating is not like anything I've seen before.

    Maybe there's an electrical engineer on here that could help.

    It's a 230v 3ph 600rpm motor rated at 16 oz-ft horsepower. What in the world does that mean? As of yet, I haven't been able to find a direct conversion from oz-ft to actual horsepower. I suspect it's not much, but, this thing weighs about 25 lbs.

    Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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    A force and distance standard is a torque rating, not a horsepower rating.

    Think foot - pounds.

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    My feeble mind still don't compute. It doesn't tell me if it has enough horsepower to run a #32 meat grinder.

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    I don't know how much HP it takes to run a #32 meat grinder.

    Take a picture of the identification plate on the motor and post it here.

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    I would question the 3 phase part. cant really judge your situation, but that would be a deal killer for me. I will follow in hope I might learn about the horsepower
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    Need a minimum of 1hp

    Sorry about the size!

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    Not a electrician, but most places only have 2 phase power coming in.

    I've heard a 3 phase device is somewhat cheaper to operate, and more efficient,
    but you'll need a place that has 3 phase power coming in to be able to run it,
    like a big commercial building.

    You used to see big, low hp, low rpm motors in commercial use to run a big fan or ventilator 24/7.
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    I think I figured it out....if there's 746 amps in 1 horsepower, this motor is 1/746th of 1 horsepower. No bueno!

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    Wasn't worried about the 3 phase. You can run a 3 phase motor in 1 phase with a vfd. Can get a vfd for about 50 bucks and the motor was free so I wasn't worried about it. Motor is of no use, though, with the low power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rojelio View Post
    I think I figured it out....if there's 746 amps in 1 horsepower, this motor is 1/746th of 1 horsepower. No bueno!
    A horse power is a horse power.
    A motor that makes 1/746 of a hp would be about the size of a pencil eraser.
    I think that amp number is how much current it draws.
    Being one amp, you should be able to run 15 of them on the three legs of a 3 phase, 15 amp circuit breaker.

    One hp should work OK on a meat grinder.
    I'd put a pulley on it and try it out. Even with a fair amount of reduction, maybe 2 or 3 to one, it'll still turn the
    impeller screw faster, and a lot longer than you can by hand.
    Also, the decent size electric grinders you see are usually only 1/2 or 3/4 hp.


    You commonly see big heavy low horsepower, low rpm motors turning big ventilator fans,
    or low pressure-high volume drain pumps.
    They're for long, continuous duty applications that don't need a lot of horse power or high rpm.
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    I know nothing about power ratings of electrical motors, however, something is amiss. Three phrase 25 pound motors are generally significantly more powerful than 1/746th of 1 horsepower...………...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rojelio View Post
    Wasn't worried about the 3 phase. You can run a 3 phase motor in 1 phase with a vfd. Can get a vfd for about 50 bucks and the motor was free so I wasn't worried about it. Motor is of no use, though, with the low power.
    vfd = variable - ??frequency?? - ????????
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    vfd= variable frequency drive

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    16 oz-ft = 1.00000000027 HP

    230 volts 3 phase is usually what most think of as 220 service (I think).

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    "I think I figured it out....if there's 746 amps in 1 horsepower...."

    rojello, That should be 746 watts per [mechanical] horsepower.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maven View Post
    "I think I figured it out....if there's 746 amps in 1 horsepower...."

    rojello, That should be 746 watts per [mechanical] horsepower.
    My mistake...

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    Rating plate says 1lb/ft @600rpm.......=.114hp,....also says 1A@230v=230W,or about 1/3hp.,less internal losses.

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    no its not a one horse motor-- its a fractional horsepower motor, if you look up the 16oz-ft and do the math its not much of a motor, and given that it uses only 1 amp it has almost no strength at all. wonder what it was made for, obviously a very specific use.
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    Power Co. can set up a transformer for your needs but 3phase in this neck of the woods is usually 440volts or 660 volts. Don't know of any 220 3phase. Normal domestic is 200amp single phase.

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