On another board I participate on, a discussion concerning the Mossberg 464 levergun drifted a bit and one poster mentioned that Savage was going to be showing a new-series Model 99 at the 2009 SHOT Show. Has anyone heard further information concerning this development?
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I hadn't heard this, but IMO this would be great. My fear is though it would be very expensive. Let's face it this rigle costs a lot more to manufacture than the 110 series. I don't think a $1,000 lever gun is feasabe in the market place right now, but who knows, it may work.
A modern metal model 99 in 375 winchester would be FANTASTIC !
I agree, they made a short run of these. I turned one down about 10 years ago for $350.................................The 358 would be ok too turned one of those down too for $275....................................When will I ever learn.
DON"T DO THIS TO ME AL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!A new run of 99's would mean a major hit to my financial standing, assuming they were anything like the old ones.
Oh! The thoughts I'm thinking!!!
I pray to God it's not magazine fed.
“If your only tool is a hammer, then all your problems start to look like people who need to be beaten with a hammer.”
i can't remember where i read about this but some gun magazine guy was relaying his conversation with the Savage brass about this 99 reintro. i think something to the effect of if they were going to do it, they were going to do it right. with walnut and polished blue steel, rotory magazine, classic calibers-think 250-3000, 300 Sav. etc. that means they will not be $500. but to some like me who are tired of looking at beat up junk 99's that people are asking ridiculous $$$$ for, i am looking forward to it.
Sorry to upset yer applecart like that, Bret.
It IS food for thought, for sure. I imagine that if done in walnut and high-polish blue steel with the spool magazine its price might top $1,000. Calibers? Classics like the 250 and 300 Savage would sell well.......the 243/308/358 chamberings would be popular as well, and the 338 Federal strikes me as a worthwhile update too. PLEASE--no SAUM/WSSM offerings, though--such an atrocity would be like spray paint on the Sistine Chapel.
I don't paint bullets. I like Black Rifle Coffee. Sacred cows are always fair game. California is to the United States what Syria is to Russia and North Korea is to China/South Korea/Japan--a Hermit Kingdom detached from the real world and led by delusional maniacs, an economic and social basket case sustained by "foreign" aid so as to not lose military bases.
Allen,
I think a stainless steel,ryanite plastic stocked,8-32X scoped 99 chambered in 223 WSSSM would be the schizzle
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R-man, you're not making any points today, at all.
I don't paint bullets. I like Black Rifle Coffee. Sacred cows are always fair game. California is to the United States what Syria is to Russia and North Korea is to China/South Korea/Japan--a Hermit Kingdom detached from the real world and led by delusional maniacs, an economic and social basket case sustained by "foreign" aid so as to not lose military bases.
A 358 win would be great with some of my molds.225 grain sierra j-words would be great also.I hope they make some.
a 300 savage with a 1-13 twist and a castboolits logo on the forearm.
with loading tool and mmmmmmmold cut for the rifles throat with a f/p g/c.
think any of those would sell here on a group buy???
I read, I think on savageshooters.com, a reference to Savages' Ron Coburn saying the new 99 won't be available until sometime in '09. If this is real, it will impact my finances worse than the beating my 401k has taken.
Urny
Elko County, the old heart of Nevada
Hear that, Urny--but it's a hit I'm willing to take, ESP. if they come chambered in 358 Winchester or 338 Federal. A LOT of shooters missed their chance to grab a 99 in 358, and I won't repeat that mistake.
I don't paint bullets. I like Black Rifle Coffee. Sacred cows are always fair game. California is to the United States what Syria is to Russia and North Korea is to China/South Korea/Japan--a Hermit Kingdom detached from the real world and led by delusional maniacs, an economic and social basket case sustained by "foreign" aid so as to not lose military bases.
9.3x62 AL:Well I'm thinking you had multiple chances to buy mine,finally gave up and sold it locally at one of my typical 'bargain,"close-out",nevertobeseenagain"price..(fwiw,URNY passed on it, too) ...onceabull
"The Eagle is no flycatcher"
I've become too soon old, and too late smart.
I don't paint bullets. I like Black Rifle Coffee. Sacred cows are always fair game. California is to the United States what Syria is to Russia and North Korea is to China/South Korea/Japan--a Hermit Kingdom detached from the real world and led by delusional maniacs, an economic and social basket case sustained by "foreign" aid so as to not lose military bases.
With modern CNC mills, a lot of old designs that require a lot of
machining operations and specialized machines in the past are now
much more reasonable to make.
In the past, it was frequently necessary to make a special machine tool,
or modify one to do ONE particular operation on a frame or barrel shape.
When this machine wore out after many years, it cost a fortune to replace
and frequently an old gun design was not selling well by then so they
junked the machine and the design died. This is apparently what happened
to the SAA Colt at the end of WW2.
Nowdays, the only real limitation is spending the time (=$$) setting up
the computer program and the (usually much simpler) fixturing to hold the
part for machining -- ASSUMING you already have the expensive CNC multi
axis mill in house and it has some time available.
Walnut is still expensive and polishing takes time and skilled technicians.
It would seem possible that Savage can make the 99 design on wholly new
machines and keep the cost at least believable. For example, I would
think a Marlin 1895 reciever is about as complex as the Sav 99. Marlin makes
money selling them for around $600 retail. It would seem reasonable that
Savage could match that, altho the spool mag may be the deal breaker on
that price point. Marlin uses modern CNC machines to keep prices in line.
Maybe Savage can do it successfully, too. This is why the controlled round
'almost pre64' Mod 70 design was able to be brought back.
The only reason a 1911 can be the price that they are now is modern
CNC. If they were still hand machined by skilled machinists they would
cost $2000 and up for a plain jane and any special custom version would
cost a ton more. Look at the immensly complex special barrel shapes that
the S&W custom shop can put out on limited prod pistols nowdays.
Bill
If it was easy, anybody could do it.
If this is true, then I think a logical bet on calibers offered would be .243/.308/.358. If those sold well we might see other calibers. Just my .02 cents.
BTW, I hope this is true. Would love to have a Savage '99 in .375 Winchester!
-Matt
Group Buys Honcho'd: C326-175-FN, 434-210-RF, C434-210-RF, 30-165-SIL-MOD, 358156-PB, 413-170-Keith, C348-225-FN, 8mm SIL, 45-230-CM, 45-270-Ohaus/SWC, Edd's 28-170-FN
219 Zipper or 22-250, 250 sav, 308 and 358. I can dream, right?
What's the empty weight on a 99?
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