Took out my old faithful 35 Rem today she's a model 600 Remington with an 2.5x weaver had three loads first was my mid power load of 16 grs of 2400 and the Lyman 358315 . Almost got that 5 shot one hole group but yanked one out . Next were with 36 and 37 grs of imr 4895 at 36 and 37 grs I normally always used AA 2230 with my full speed hunting loads but I gave the stick powder a go with the Lee 200 gr both shot good enough for deer at the ranges I hunt the 36 gr has the marks next to the holes 37 gr load shot a hair better gonna work up 38-40 grs and see how she likes them I've found the more I push cast the better it does but that was with ball powders .