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Thread: Shiloh and c sharps shooting into the pool

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    Shiloh and c sharps shooting into the pool

    . Shot the Shiloh and the c sharps into the pool. The standing bullets the one on the far right is the c sharps. The other 2 are Shiloh. The bullet on the c sharps is perfect imo as far as patch length. The Shiloh with its tighter bore is bumping up much farther than the c sharps. We lengthened the patches for the Shiloh and have them where we want them now. Also pictures are bullet bases. All 3 were shot out of the Shiloh. We experimented with fold over. You can see the bullet with the most fold over has the most finning. The bullet with the least amount of fold over has the flattest and most crisp base.


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    Ian, can you tell us what the lead tin mix is, how much powder and what for wad?

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    Who knew pool shooting could be so interesting? Do you need a tag for hunting pools?

    Those fold under results are really intriguing, and surprising. I would not have expected that. Did you replicate that by any chance?

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    Very interesting and informative. It almost makes me wish I had a pool. Maybe make friends with someone in the neighborhood with one.
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    Brent I had to buy my tag at the West Virginia DNR . We shot a couple different bullets into the pool with the shorter fold over. The bases got better as the amount fold over decreased. The very best base was one with barley any fold over at all but that would be hard to do every time. I am just going to keep the fold over at a minimum from now on.


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    Old-win the lead is 14:1. 83 grains of Swiss 1.5 and a .060 polly wad


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    truly interesting, thank you for sharing! Name:  thumbsup.gif
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    Ian, remind us (or at least me) of what your chamber is in the Sharps.

    I have some snow bank bullet bases to post in comparison.

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    My sharps is the standard Shiloh chamber. It has the 45 degree from the case mouth to a freebore thatís .050 long with a diameter of .460. That goes to a 1.5 degree lead


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    Case mouth diameter is .481


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    ian, does the bump up before the patching starts cause leading?

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    Yes. I have been getting some leading issues. I wasnít sure if it was patch length or gas cutting. Now I know it was patch length. We shot some of the longer patches and they didnít lead at all.


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    The shorter ones that my highwall likes so well lead the hell out of the Shiloh. Easy fix though


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    These are 16:1 alloy shot into a snowbank this winter.


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    you using about that much overlap? Doesnít look like your getting much finning at all.


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    yup. About that much overlap on those bullets (usually it's less), and almost zero finning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ian45662 View Post
    Yes. I have been getting some leading issues. I wasn’t sure if it was patch length or gas cutting. Now I know it was patch length. We shot some of the longer patches and they didn’t lead at all.

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    how are you patching, dry or wet?

    so, the new longer patches are gonna hafta go past the ogive, past the parallel of the bullet's shank and into the nose taper - any issues with that kinda loose front patching (particularly if it's dry)?

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    Brent could that have something to do with the different chambers we are using then? Rfd I wet patch. I initially went .080
    Longer than my highwall and after the testing we determined they need to go an additional .040. I have a silhouette shoot next weekend. We will see what happens.


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    Might be chamber differences. Yours bumps up pretty large and then swages down a lot as the bullet starts forward. Mine, not so much, if at all.


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    It will be interesting if the shorter overlap equates to better accuracy or no difference


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