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  • Lee 150fn

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    I didn't see it mentioned, what alloy are you using to achieve these groups and velocities?

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    Split the difference! Get the Lee 170 gr FN GC! I have both of the Lee 150 an 170 gr molds ! Use them both in 300 BLK Out, 30-30 and 30-06! The 170gr is a thumper! The 150 gr is used mostly for yotes in all three. The 170gr is my deer load for all of them!

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    That is great accuracy to 200 yards with cast

    I would use the 150 gr bullet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by richhodg66 View Post
    I didn't see it mentioned, what alloy are you using to achieve these groups and velocities?
    I’m using 5 parts RS to 1part lino with 3% tin or so

    I would love to try the Ranch dog 165 rf but I can’t seem to spend the 100$ on a maybe mold from NOE... if anyone has some they want to send I would love that

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    Quote Originally Posted by richhodg66 View Post
    I agree on more weight, but I'd want something with a flat nose which the 311299 doesn't have. Something like the 311041 or RCBS 180 grain flat point.
    My thoughts also! Given only these two choices I'd opt for the flat-nose boolit. If I had my 'druthers, I'd take the 311041, good weight and flat nose.
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    Lee molds are cheap but work well so you can afford to buy more of different weights and see what works for your needs .

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    I bought the 150gr RF only because it was on sale. The 170grRF would likely be a better boolit for game. I took out the 308 Bolt gun the other day and it would not print for beans. It did however annihilate a 4" rock on the berm. Go figure. It seems that paper scares my 150gr NOE Spitzer but the rock became gravel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fcvan View Post
    I bought the 150gr RF only because it was on sale. The 170grRF would likely be a better boolit for game. I took out the 308 Bolt gun the other day and it would not print for beans. It did however annihilate a 4" rock on the berm. Go figure. It seems that paper scares my 150gr NOE Spitzer but the rock became gravel.
    Check the nose to see if it fits in tha end of the barrel. I tryed the 170 years ago in my Ruger .308 and it wouldn't shoot for bean's. In the BIL's 30-06 Winchester it shot 2" groups. When I tryed to slip the nose in to the end of mine it slid in easy on his I had to push harder to get it in.
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    Well I did some load development on the 150 FN and I think we have a winner other then one flyer(which was called, the rifle slipped off the rest). This is at 100 yards, I’m starting to like this 1/12 twist

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    Like Larry I have a Forster hollowpoint drill set-up, so I would use the 311299 with a drilled hollowpoint. The extra bullet weight takes care of the possibilities of a mis-judged angle or some other reason that the perfect broadside shot is not made. I would also soften my alloy for a short run of 'hunting' bullets. Really little difference for most hunting between 308 and '06. '06 rifles are usually heavier than 308's, 1/12 twist is a little easier to develop accurate cast bullet loads.
    Last edited by MostlyLeverGuns; 09-28-2019 at 10:05 PM. Reason: Added information.

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    Anytime this topic comes up, I remember this article by Junior, rest his soul. I miss that guy.
    http://www.castbullet.com/reload/meplat.htm

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    At 2250 fps with a moderate hardness alloy, I cant believe it wouldn't expand well, making this a pointless argument on meplat, pun intended. I voted Lee 150 grain. You get more velocity with the same accuracy, and more than likely better expansion. I don't like round nose at all, I believe it to be the least efficient bullet shape in all aspects, on target, and in flight.

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    the older I get the heavier I like my boolits
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    I had a 38 that grouped great with the 358311 158 gr rn. I had it antelope hunting one year when a dozen young sage hens ran in front of me. Unlike old boomers the 3-5 lb young ones are tasty so I pulled out the 38 and shot two, they lagged behind so I shot them again, they were still running and each took a third shot to anchor a 4 lb bird. The 358477 had already accounted for a lot of rabbits and a few grouse with one shot. I became a believer in meplats and have never looked back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WinchesterM1 View Post
    So I have a problem, I have a TC compass in 308 1/12 twist I have a 150 grn Lee flat nose and I have worked up a load going 2250fps and it holds a 1 1/2 inch at 100 and 4” at 200 (using a 3-9 scope) but I also have a NOE 311299 200grn round nose going 2000fps with the same groups which would you use and why? I’ll be shooting open fields at a max distance of 200 yards. Thanks
    I'd use the 150 @ 2250 fps. Something about that 2200fps threshold for knock down power. They've been knocking stuff down with subsonic roundball for hundreds of years,but I'd want the extra advantage your 150gr round has to offer.

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    Well I made up the same batch of alloy but this time put 4oz of Tin. I shot a milk jug at 100 yards turned longways and I found it burried about 10” deep.

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    It expanded to .620 and only lost 11grn of weight, which of course is missing the GC. This was at 100 yard impact not at the 20-30’ people do to test, I’m excited to see how this does on a couple of white tail this year.

    This is the lee .309-150fn over 35grn of Varget seared LONG out of my TC compass 308 with a 1/12 twist

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    That's a great looking expanded bullet. You gave got a winner

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    beautiful... thats what boolits are suppost to do!!!!
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    ME would be greater for the 200g, however, bullet drop might be a factor at extended distances.
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    That's a pretty mushroom. I stand by my 150gr recommendation but if you have freezer space take a deer with each and see what YOU think.

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BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
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