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    help identifying new rifle

    Good morning,

    I bought this .36 caliber rifle recently. I am looking for any info you guys can provide. It looks like maybe it was a kit, I don't know. I am new to muzzleloaders and I don't have an extensive background.

    I took it all apart. There are no markings on the barrel. The only marking on the lock looks like a "C" or a half moon on the outside of the lock plate.

    I pulled the breech plug and the bore looks new with a slow twist.

    I look forward to shooting it. If it shoots good then I plan on refinishing the wood.

    Thanks in advance,

    Steve in N CA

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    That stock design has a bit of a hump. That might help identify it.
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    The lock doesn't look identical to any currently offered by Track of the Wolf. The breech plug isn't a T/C. Does it have a one piece stock or is there a brass piece separating the pieces, if a two piece?
    My guess, and that's all it is, is that it's a Traditions or Hopkins & Allen.
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    It is a nice, one piece stock that is pinned, no wedges.


    Steve

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    My first black powder rifle had that stock profile and trigger guard, but was .45 caliber, and was called the Yorkshire, made in Italy, and sold by Richland Arms. Does yours have a two piece forend, with a brass piece joining the front piece to the rear? As I remember, they were only offered in .45 cal. , perhaps yours was rebarreled.

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    Would guess Richland Arms also, one I had for a while had that type of breechplug and lock looks the same.

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    They got it, I put one of those kits together in 1971.

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    Richland arms and Hopkins & Allen both offered those kinds of imported kits in .36 and .45 caliber in the early 70s. The give-away was the breech plug with allen wrench recess and the straight tang. They were inexpensive kits and somewhat serviceable. Yours might be a later one as the early models lacked a bridle inside the lock. The "Roman-nose" stock profile became briefly popular after the "Last of the Mohicans" movie debuted. Daniel Day Lewis' character, Hawkeye, carried a roman nose stocked rifle albeit a flintlock in the movie.

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