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    What a difference 2grn can make!! 308

    Getting ready for season and I decided to hunt with my TC 308 1/12 twist

    The load is a lee 150 fn over H414 at 100 yards shot with a vortex 3-9 scope

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    Wow, most illustrative.
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    Great job. Now you need to check if 38.5 and 39.5 are good to, if its not over max. Go right in the middle and you will have a great load no mater what temp it is. Lower temp = lower pressure. So if you can find a load that the gun likes around 39 you should be golden.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kungfustyle View Post
    Great job. Now you need to check if 38.5 and 39.5 are good to, if its not over max. Go right in the middle and you will have a great load no mater what temp it is. Lower temp = lower pressure. So if you can find a load that the gun likes around 39 you should be golden.
    Will do, I was just trying to figure out pressure signs and I’m glad to say even at 40.6grn I still had blowback on the case neck and very rounded primers, I may try 42 and 43 to just see if that’s another accuracy node or not. I am trying to get around 24-2500fps just to see if I can do it, that’s the whole reason I got this whopping $170 rifle is to see if I can get some decent high speed with the 1/12 twist. I’ll stick to around 2000fps for hunting around eastern Ky that’s all you need I can shoot up to 700 yards on my farm but I don’t I limit cast boolits to 250 yards if the boolit is going 2000fps and under 250 if it’s below 2000

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    I shot many deer with a .30-30 bullet loaded in a .308 case, and I ran the pressure/velocity to where it was basically a .30-30+P.
    it was a mauser barrelled in .308.

    If you load a 150gr cast to 30-30 speeds, then you what about the same thing I was loading........it is deadly on Bambi's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kens View Post
    I shot many deer with a .30-30 bullet loaded in a .308 case, and I ran the pressure/velocity to where it was basically a .30-30+P.
    it was a mauser barrelled in .308.

    If you load a 150gr cast to 30-30 speeds, then you what about the same thing I was loading........it is deadly on Bambi's.

    I agree 100%.

    My favorite load in my 30-30 is the Lee 150F, gas-checked, over 25 gr of 3031. Deadly accurate.

    I recently found a Mauser 98 re-barrelled to 308 for a ridiculously low price. For giggles I decided to try the same load, The Lee 150F over 25 gr of 3031. The results were 1 1/4" groups all day long at 100 yards.

    I stopped there.


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    What’s the velocity of that 25 grn of Imr3031?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WinchesterM1 View Post
    What’s the velocity of that 25 grn of Imr3031?

    I have never measured it. But I have a chronograph day set aside for next week. I will add this to the list of loads to check.


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    Have found the same thing with several different rifles....

    This was a Remington LTR .308....
    Load was a Federal case, CCI BR primer, Sierra 168 MK and Winchester 748 powder:

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    A Remington 700 SF in .257 Weatherby did the same thing with Reloader 25 and a 120 Speer BT. Started at about 1 moa and shrank down to .3 moa and then the groups started opening up...

    From left to right the groups keep shrinking until they blow back open with group 5 all the way to the right...

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    ...every gun has a sweet spot for a certain bullet....

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Abbreviations used in Reloading

BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
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