Carry Permits...

[BCB]

Not sure where to put this question, but I'll start here...


I’m planning a trip to a few states. I live in Pennsylvania and all of the states, except one, accept the Carry Permit from PA…

The state of concern is Illinois. Any Illinois residence who might know this question?

Is there any way I can put the handgun someplace in my truck—say the tool box in the bed—and cross that state without the handgun immediately accessible from my console…

My local authorities say I can do this, BUT I question this to a certain degree…

Would there be any agency in Illinois I could contact concerning this?

Thanks...BCB

[Petrol & Powder]

I'm not am Illinois resident but here's what I found:

" It is illegal to carry a loaded handgun in a vehicle without a permit/license. The statute does not apply however to the transportation of firearms that are:
1) broken down in a non-functioning state;
2) not immediately accessible; or
3) unloaded and enclosed in a case, firearm carrying box, shipping box, or other container by a person with a currently valid Firearm Owner’s Identification card.

A person who is issued a valid concealed carry license is permitted to keep or carry a loaded or unloaded concealed handgun on or about his or her person within a vehicle.

There is another separate law for Non-Residents
A non-resident may transport a loaded concealed handgun in a vehicle if they have a valid CCW permit in their home state. They cannot under any circumstances remove the firearm from the vehicle. If they need to exit the vehicle they must lock it or place the firearm in a locked container."

source:
https://www.gunstocarry.com/gun-laws...-laws/#il-laws

and here's the actual law:
http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs...3000660K40.htm

[tazman]

Petrol & Powder is entirely correct on all counts as I understand the law here in Illinois.

[LUCKYDAWG13]

Petrol & powder is 100% right but remember this ( A person who is issued a valid concealed carry license is permitted to keep or carry a loaded or unloaded concealed handgun on or about his or her person within a vehicle. KEEP in your car

[BCB]

Thanks, but this is where it gets "sticky"...

The attachment shows the states that accept PA permits--Illinois is a red state on the map and does not--yet, the regulations as stated by P&P indicates they might...

Other input would be appreciated as a comparison...

Thank...BCB

[fivegunner]

So It looks like I can carry with my CPL from where I live ( Michigan) across Ill. Locked and cocked as long as I stay in my truck? if so Cool!

[trapper9260]

I'm not am Illinois resident but here's what I found:

" It is illegal to carry a loaded handgun in a vehicle without a permit/license. The statute does not apply however to the transportation of firearms that are:
1) broken down in a non-functioning state;
2) not immediately accessible; or
3) unloaded and enclosed in a case, firearm carrying box, shipping box, or other container by a person with a currently valid Firearm Owner’s Identification card.

A person who is issued a valid concealed carry license is permitted to keep or carry a loaded or unloaded concealed handgun on or about his or her person within a vehicle.

There is another separate law for Non-Residents
A non-resident may transport a loaded concealed handgun in a vehicle if they have a valid CCW permit in their home state. They cannot under any circumstances remove the firearm from the vehicle. If they need to exit the vehicle they must lock it or place the firearm in a locked container."

source:
https://www.gunstocarry.com/gun-laws...-laws/#il-laws

and here's the actual law:
http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs...3000660K40.htm

This what I was told also by USCCA about IL for a non resident that is past through and if need to get gas to do what you wrote. also what is stated also about the state.

[LUCKYDAWG13]

Thanks, but this is where it gets "sticky"...

The attachment shows the states that accept PA permits--Illinois is a red state on the map and does not--yet, the regulations as stated by P&P indicates they might...

Other input would be appreciated as a comparison...

Thank...BCB

what that means is that you can carry in your Vehicle only not on your person outside of your Vehicle

[LUCKYDAWG13]

this is a good app to have on your phone a must if you carry https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...ryan.ccw&hl=en

[Thumbcocker]

The Illinois State Police website has a FAQ section that answers your question.

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[BCB]

O.K. Thanks all. I have information to start with...

It appears if I stay in a hotel for a night in Illinois, the handgun must stay in the vehicle locked and secured. This could be the tricky part, not that I think I will need it in the hotel room, but I am a bit paranoid about letting it in a locked truck...

Will continue to research, but all info given seems to be straight-foreword...

Thanks...BCB

[LUCKYDAWG13]

Some times it's better to be judged by 12 then carried by 6 just saying

[Petrol & Powder]

O.K. Thanks all. I have information to start with...

It appears if I stay in a hotel for a night in Illinois, the handgun must stay in the vehicle locked and secured. This could be the tricky part, not that I think I will need it in the hotel room, but I am a bit paranoid about letting it in a locked truck...

Will continue to research, but all info given seems to be straight-foreword...

Thanks...BCB

The problem isn't in the hotel room, the problem is getting the gun from the car to the hotel room.

[contender1]

I am NOT a resident of either IL or Pa.
However,, reading the information above,,, and often dealing with traveling,, it appears that you are legally allowed to transport THROUGH the state of IL. with a valid carry permit. The firearm must not leave the vehicle. Meaning,, you are not allowed to even use it etc.
If you must travel through IL. then I'd make my plans to NOT stop anywhere in the state if at all possible. No gas, no motel, no eating etc. I know this may not be possible,, but if I'd sure look at all the possibilities.
When I travel,, I have in the past had to go through a few "unfriendly" states. I planned to not stop, to assure I had plenty of gas & snacks etc. Never spent the night in them either.

I look at it like this.
Why give them my business (money) when they refuse to accept the Constitution? I'm a legal, honest American, and they choose to make it hard to visit or live there for many of us. So, I do not give them any money.

As I said,, this may not be the answer,, and by all appearances,, the excellent information above is a good guide.

[Froogal]

Just my opinion, but unless you have a need to be in Illinois, That state is not difficult to avoid.

[Petrol & Powder]

............
However,, reading the information above,,, and often dealing with traveling,, it appears that you are legally allowed to transport THROUGH the state of IL. with a valid carry permit. The firearm must not leave the vehicle. Meaning,, you are not allowed to even use it etc.
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/\ Not completely accurate.

While a state may impose restrictions on the means of self-defense, the legal concept of self-defense is never eliminated.

So while the state may say that you cannot carry a concerned weapon or may place restrictions on how you carry a concealed weapon, they cannot completely strip you of the right to self-defense.

So let's say you're at a gas station and you have a gun lawfully stored in your vehicle. Your wife is walking from the store when some thug grabs her and is robbing her at knife point. You grab your gun and defend your wife (self defense can extend to the defense of others). You're not carrying a concealed weapon, the gun is in plain view in your hand.
Now the guy charges at you with the knife while announcing he intends to kill you. You shoot him to stop that attack.

Illinois can make it difficult to defend yourself by enacting restrictive weapons laws but they cannot strip you of your right to put forth a legal defense.

Now, here's where it gets tricky - just because you put forth a claim of self defense doesn't mean a judge or jury must always accept that legal defense. Given the above scenario, a conviction would be very unlikely, but self-defense claims are rarely that clean.

So when you say "....Meaning,, you are not allowed to even use it..." (referring to a firearm), that's not always true. There may be circumstances where the right to self defense creates an exception to concealed carry laws.

The first course of action should always be to comply with the law. If the law says the gun must stay in the car, then the gun should stay in the car. However, the state can never completely remove your right to self-defense.

[alamogunr]

Interesting thread. I was born in Illinois but my parents moved to Tennessee when I was still an infant. As an adult I have rarely gone back there. Most of the relatives I had there have passed away and any that are left are essentially unknown to me and I to them.

It is a shame that the situation in IL is what it is. I can remember going rabbit hunting on my grandfather's farm as a teenager..

[Texas by God]

Some times it's better to be judged by 12 then carried by 6 just saying

This ^^^^-and it's easier to get out of the jail than the cemetary.

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[Plate plinker]

Fill up with fuel in Indiana (FREE STATE) and DO NOT STOP in socialist controlled IL if at all possible. This is how I cross IL as well as many others. The state police there do run traffic in the rural areas but tend to let things flow around ChicaGO. The crossing from NW Indiana is relatively quick to Iowa and Wisconsin so your time in country is minimal.

Also it is best to fill up on fuel befoe Lake county AKA GARY, IN. That place is a entirely different planet.

[BCB]

Yea, I could avoid IL, but that is where I'm going to visit a relative. I am going to be in IL for 24 hours at most, but I realize that is a STOP IN IL. So, I guess I will just have to play it absolutely by the rules, but I wasn't planning on doing it any other way...

I will fuel up in Indiana and once I do my visit with my brother, I will not need to get out of my vehicle until farther west. I will need to try to avoid Nebraska also...

Or, just let the handgun in good ol' Pennsylvania...