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    Strange Lee Die

    Tell me what this Lee die is....

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    neck sizing die

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    Lee collet neck sizing die for a very short case.
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    Never seen one of these. I assume it’s also a decapping die.
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    Yep, Lee Collet neck sizing die. The cartridge designation should be stamped in the collet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Grinch View Post
    Never seen one of these. I assume it’s also a decapping die.
    Well, since it shows a decapping pin in the picture, I would assume so.

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    It also decaps but its primary purpose is neck sizing. It requires the central mandrel even if there is no decapping pin.

    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Grinch View Post
    Never seen one of these. I assume it’s also a decapping die.
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    If you enlarge the Picture it looks like the collet is marked 22 H - J4. Maybe it's a collet neck sizing die for a 22 Hornet.Just my guess.
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    Those have been around about 30 years...
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    Shows you what I know.... been reloading since 1974 and I don’t have any Lee dies, until now! Only Lee stuff I have is the Universal Expander and a set of Lee dippers.
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    When you (people) under-rate a company/brand you don't pay much attention to them.

    How many people look down on Lee products yet still use their factory crimp dies
    Last edited by Conditor22; 08-26-2019 at 04:49 PM.

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    I only give credit for excellence where it is due and the rifle type Lee factory crimp dies are excellent.
    Lee makes other tools that run from acceptable to mediocre with the emphasis on low purchase price.
    Low purchase prices alone do not make for the most highly rated product line.

    You do have to keep in mind that reloaders originally get into the activity because they do not like the cost of purchased ammo. They already have the personal characteristics of being cheap. Being cheap does not equate with buying the best quality. Being cheap does not even equate with buying the best value. It usually just equates with buying the item from the "lowest price bidder".



    Quote Originally Posted by Conditor22 View Post
    When you under-rate a company/brand you don't pay much attention to them.

    How many people look down on Lee products yet still use their factory crimp dies
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conditor22 View Post
    When you under-rate a company/brand you don't pay much attention to them.

    How many people look down on Lee products yet still use their factory crimp dies
    You’re misconstruing my post. I have not under-rated Lee products. I have not had the need or opportunity to purchase any. I’m sure they have a great following and provide great service.
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    When Lee came out with a $9.99 boolit mould that included the handles I thought it was the best thing since sliced bread . Finally someone made moulds I could afford . When you are in high school and only get $3.50 for mowing a lawn...you don't have much of a budget to buy the Lyman moulds and they cost extra if you wanted a handle .
    Lee got me started in this hobby by making affordable stuff and I will always remember that .
    Not all of us have unlimited spending capabilities .
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    Quote Originally Posted by gwpercle View Post
    When Lee came out with a $9.99 boolit mould that included the handles I thought it was the best thing since sliced bread . Finally someone made moulds I could afford . When you are in high school and only get $3.50 for mowing a lawn...you don't have much of a budget to buy the Lyman moulds and they cost extra if you wanted a handle .
    Lee got me started in this hobby by making affordable stuff and I will always remember that .
    Not all of us have unlimited spending capabilities .
    Gary
    That is a great point and is why I started with a Lee loader and a hammer for a press .
    What I have found is what we are loading and the guns we are loading for has as much to do with the equipment we have success with as the cost of the tool I prefer several of the Lee products to any others I have for my use. As with any other brand some Lee products I would never buy , some I would not buy again and some ,
    The lower price is just a bonus.
    This hobbie draws equipment junkies and that's okay to ,I have some inexpensive tools that are worth way more than they cost to me , and I have some expensive tools that cost way more than thy are worth to me.

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    Unfortunately cost and quality are opposite sides of the same equation.
    It took Lee about 35 years to finally admit his original horizontal alignment pins were not a good idea.
    I resisted buying Lee molds because of those poor alignment pins. I much prefer the steel pins and bushings used in the newer molds.

    Quote Originally Posted by gwpercle View Post
    When Lee came out with a $9.99 boolit mould that included the handles I thought it was the best thing since sliced bread . Finally someone made moulds I could afford . When you are in high school and only get $3.50 for mowing a lawn...you don't have much of a budget to buy the Lyman moulds and they cost extra if you wanted a handle .
    Lee got me started in this hobby by making affordable stuff and I will always remember that .
    Not all of us have unlimited spending capabilities .
    Gary
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    Quote Originally Posted by EDG View Post
    Unfortunately cost and quality are opposite sides of the same equation.
    I doubt you would get much argument from Lee. His advertisement of a reloading manual touted the company’s ability to cut costs as much as possible while still having a usable product

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Grinch View Post
    You’re misconstruing my post. I have not under-rated Lee products. I have not had the need or opportunity to purchase any. I’m sure they have a great following and provide great service.
    Sorry, I didn't mean you personally. Just saying many people talk Lee down but still use some of their dies.

    I'm having one of those communication problems between my brain and my fingers

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    I have a set of those Lee collet dies, in 30-06. I bought them sometime in the early '90s, as I recall. They have worked well over the years.

    One distinct advantage for me was shown when I happened to buy a used rifle chambered in 30-06 Ackley Improved. I bought it for the action, to rebarrel to something else, since I had no idea who put the custom barrel on it. It shot so well I kept it as is. I was set to spend some money on custom Ackley Improved dies when I found that the Lee collet dies worked very well for loading Improved ammo.

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