35/30 makes me smile

[444ttd]

So this is a 30/30 necked up to 357 or 358? Like a mini Whelen?

yes, .358" or was it .359"?

[Outpost75]

My .35/.30-30 uses a .358" barrel with 1:16" twist of rifling, the same as in the .35 Remington.

Chamber throating follows the form of the .35 Whelen, having a cylindrical ball seat of .360" for 0.2" ahead of the case mouth, with 6 degree angle forcing cone and sufficient neck release clearance to load as-cast and unsized .362" diameter cast bullets in necked-down Starline 2.082" length .38-55 brass. I do not load light weight pistol bullets, but 215-270 grain plainbased lead bullets intended for rifle use. A nominal case full of IMR4064, IMR4895, RL15 or Varget, using a 2 grain tuft of Dacron and a pea-sized dab of white lithium grease, compressing the charge, inert fiber filler and "grease cookie" as if loading black powder, gives 1600-1700 fps with no leading.

Game performance is stellar at woods ranges.

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[444ttd]

i checked and its .359" for my 35/30(JES did it).

[richhodg66]

You guys are enablers.

I really don't need to get one of these but you're making it harder and harder not to.

[Bazoo]

I've been intrigued by this cartridge since I first read about it in cartridges of the world. If I'm not mistaken, there is a smidge of loading data in COTW.

[T_McD]

You guys are enablers.

I really don't need to get one of these but you're making it harder and harder not to.

For sure. I used to be the “common calibers only” guy. Then I got a 35 Whelen....now this is looking interesting. I think I know how old fogeys get to having 20 different oddball calibers.

[Texas by God]

Sort of a .35 Remington for 94 Winchester rifles in my view. It would be neat in any rifle, a reloader’s dream with 100+ bullet choices.

[Bazoo]

Anyone that loads 35/30-30 be willing to make me a dummy round? I'd like to have a tangible view of it when I'm dreaming. I'd be glad to pay something for the trouble and shipping.

[glaciers]

I've been thinking of this in a 94, but, the 94's I have I would not think about defiling. When I find a good pre 64 I'll send it to Jess. The 94 is about the best carry gun going and certainly my favorite rifles. Just can't mess with the ones I currently have.

[Pioneer2]

Shot out .32 Specials are more common than 30-30's so that would make a great donor rifle for a re-bore.

[Texas by God]

Anyone that loads 35/30-30 be willing to make me a dummy round? I'd like to have a tangible view of it when I'm dreaming. I'd be glad to pay something for the trouble and shipping.

Me, too please.

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[Outpost75]

Here are pics you can drool on.

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Cartridges left to right: .30-30, .35 Remington, .35/30-30

Redding dies, example cases, cartridge and boolits

Relined Model 1894 "short rifle," done by John Taylor, with Krag ctg. belt and rounds.

[fordwannabe]

Bazoo and Texas byGod pm me and I will get a couple out to each of you. Cast ok? Tom

[Bazoo]

Fordwannabe, I sent you a pm. Thank you.

Outpost, thanks for the pics, that is pretty sweet.

When they are expanded out, what thickness does the necks end up at?

[Outpost75]

Fordwannabe, I sent you a pm. Thank you.

Outpost, thanks for the pics, that is pretty sweet.

When they are expanded out, what thickness does the necks end up at?

Neck thickness depends upon the brass used as feed stock. John, I believe, used a .35 Whelen neck and throater and a .30-30 reamer. Not a "tight" chamber. I wanted enough release clearance not to be worried about neck wall thickness or oversized bullets. I can load an as-cast .362" diameter bullet in necked down Starline 2.085" length .38-55 brass, and I use a Lee Quik-Trim for the .358 Winchester to true the case mouths after firing. Using various headstamp .30-30, .32 W.S., .32-40 or .38-55 brass the older stuff is thinner so no issues.

[444ttd]

i use the 30-30 starline brass and in 3 or 4 firings, i also have no issues. i have federal, remington and winchester 30/30 brass(25+ years ago) but i keep them for my dad's savage m340.

[cwtebay]

i use the 30-30 starline brass and in 3 or 4 firings, i also have no issues. i have federal, remington and winchester 30/30 brass(25+ years ago) but i keep them for my dad's savage m340.

Do you have problems before firing 3-4 times? I noticed that chamber dimensions varied wildly on 35/30 aka 35- 30/30 (depending upon n the smith who performed the change) when I first started loading for it, and I heard everything from COW and single firing to 5-6 firings before perfect. Always wondered if it was the chamber dimensions.

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[Shawlerbrook]

JES does great work fast and reasonable. Hanging in the bush is the 356 Winchester Trapper he made for me out of a Marlin 30AS.

[fixit]

all this talk about jes makes want to send my bubba'd no.1 enfield to be bored to 35-303....the bore has too much 'windage, and it had 2 or 3 inches bobbed of the muzzle for a bulge. probably would make a sweet indiana deer rifle.

[444ttd]

Do you have problems before firing 3-4 times? I noticed that chamber dimensions varied wildly on 35/30 aka 35- 30/30 (depending upon n the smith who performed the change) when I first started loading for it, and I heard everything from COW and single firing to 5-6 firings before perfect. Always wondered if it was the chamber dimensions.

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nope, no problems. as a matter of fact, i don't need to trim the 35/30 after the second firing. i think its because of the load that i use(200gr fn gc with 20.0gr of 2400/dacron goes 1726fps avg). i just done reloading #5.


JES does wonderful work.