35/30 makes me smile

[444ttd]

all this talk about jes makes want to send my bubba'd no.1 enfield to be bored to 35-303....the bore has too much 'windage, and it had 2 or 3 inches bobbed of the muzzle for a bulge. probably would make a sweet indiana deer rifle.

i've been thinkin of buy another 30-40 krag and i'll send it to JES to make a 35-40 krag or a 405 krag(.411").its good fer me that i got too many irons in fire!!!!!!

[reivertom]

I just got my 1980s model Marlin 336 back from JES the other day. I'm in the process of getting things together for reloading. I got a .358Win neck sizing die and Lee bullet seating and crimping dies. My understanding is that after you fire form the brass and get the length correct, as long as you shoot them in the same gun you can just neck size and load. The word is this round is easy on brass...I hope so.

[samari46]

Question,I've an old marlin 30-30 with what you could have rifling. And would like JES to rebore it to another caliber possibly 38-55. So when JES finishes with the reboring does he rechamber for that particular caliber prior sending it back to you or do have a gundmith do the rechambering? And I seen to remember he offered different numbers ?. As the rifles sits now I've stripped the wood and refinished the buttstock and forearm.Putting on a new barrel on a marlin I would think would be more expensive than reboring and if for nothing getting the marlin back in 38-55 would mean getting almost like getting a old rifle in a new caliber and a new lease on life. Frank

[richhodg66]

Question,I've an old marlin 30-30 with what you could have rifling. And would like JES to rebore it to another caliber possibly 38-55. So when JES finishes with the reboring does he rechamber for that particular caliber prior sending it back to you or do have a gundmith do the rechambering? And I seen to remember he offered different numbers ?. As the rifles sits now I've stripped the wood and refinished the buttstock and forearm.Putting on a new barrel on a marlin I would think would be more expensive than reboring and if for nothing getting the marlin back in 38-55 would mean getting almost like getting a old rifle in a new caliber and a new lease on life. Frank

He has a good web site with all the details. An awful lot of guys on here have had him do this and I have yet to hear a single thing besides a glowing report. I have an old Santa Barbara Mauser in '06 sitting here waiting to become a .35 Whelen, just haven't gotten to it yet.

[Texas by God]

I sent him a .243 Win. Remington 700 and it came back as a .358 Win. It worked so well that later I sent a Win 94 30-30 and it came back as a 38-55 Win. No one else to hire; he did the chamber too.
He even sent load suggestions along both times.

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[444ttd]

did i mention that JES does wonderful work. if i could drink with jesse, i would!!!!

reivertom,
i bought the ch4d reloading dies and i can find no fault with them. i also bought 250 pcs of 30/30 starline brass. i use a hundred cases and the rest is put away. i'm on 5 reloads of the 35/30. i have only trimmed the cases once(after the first firing). i'm using 2.039" as the oal.

[reivertom]

did i mention that JES does wonderful work. if i could drink with jesse, i would!!!!

reivertom,
i bought the ch4d reloading dies and i can find no fault with them. i also bought 250 pcs of 30/30 starline brass. i use a hundred cases and the rest is put away. i'm on 5 reloads of the 35/30. i have only trimmed the cases once(after the first firing). i'm using 2.039" as the oal.

I considered biting the bullet, and ordering some of the expensive ch4d dies, but when I contacted them, they basically wanted chamber casting data, 100 dollar setup fee and a 24 month waiting period. I just did some research and found out about neck sizing. If it works like they say, it will save a bunch of money. Thanks for the oal data.

[Prodigal Son]

He is good at what he does, JES reboring has done a 38-55, 358 win and a 9.3x62 for me and his work is top shelf! I'm getting ready to send him a 30-30 for a friends Christmas gift to 38-55!

[dangitgriff]

Could the mods please make this thread a sticky, unless we already have a similar one?
Thanks,
—Griff

[444ttd]

I considered biting the bullet, and ordering some of the expensive ch4d dies, but when I contacted them, they basically wanted chamber casting data, 100 dollar setup fee and a 24 month waiting period. I just did some research and found out about neck sizing. If it works like they say, it will save a bunch of money. Thanks for the oal data.

i think that dies costs around $115. i phoned ch4d and got the 35/30 dies on the shelf. they sent it to me and two days later, it was in my mailbox.

when i asked about the 400 whelen(it was mr. petrov design), all i needed to do was either 3 fired cases or a diagram and $115(or so) and i would have dies in about 3 - 4 weeks.

[reivertom]

444ttd, That's what I thought would happen also. I figured the 35-30 dies would be an easy purchase. I contacted them and got the message I posted. I was really surprised. The 24 month wait and the 100 dollar fee really surprised me. Maybe one of my ex-girlfriends works there now! :^) Anyway, I'll try with what I have for now.

[richhodg66]

SO, without the specialty dies, could you guys describe how you reload for it? If neck sizing with a .35 Remington die or similar is all it takes, then great.

[cwtebay]

SO, without the specialty dies, could you guys describe how you reload for it? If neck sizing with a .35 Remington die or similar is all it takes, then great.

Yes, I've done nothing but use Lee neck sizing on my venture. I am around 1200 rounds through it, trimmed a bit, but I'm not shooting the brass in anything else - so neck sizing seems to be good for me.
Step 1: prime and charge brass with your choice of powder/ filler / COW or similar / fire. Load. My groups are <2 moa and consistently problem free reloading.

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[reivertom]

SO, without the specialty dies, could you guys describe how you reload for it? If neck sizing with a .35 Remington die or similar is all it takes, then great.

Well, I'm new to this round, but I've reloaded for 40 years. The way I understand is the round doesn't reqire full length sizing if shot in the same gun. So After fire forming, you just size the neck, charge the case, seat the bullet, and crimp. I got a 358 Win Neck sizer, the Lee seater, and a Lee crimp die. I've heard that you can use a .357 Magnum die to neck size, too if you have a universal de-priming die. I've almost got everything together to start.

[Bazoo]

Well, for those that FL resize, how is that working out for you? How much does your brass stretch? I always have felt better about FL resizing because I feel it provides better reliability.

[444ttd]

i do alot of...ahem, neck sizing on a fl die. every 5th or 6th shot , cases will get full length treatment. brass stretching is moot point, it could be because of the load(20.0gr of 2400/dacron under a 200gr fn gc). i mean, 30/30 cases are cheap and they are everywhere!!! i paid $88 for 250 30/30 starline cases.

[444ttd]

i was at my reloading bench when i found this.

35/30
win m94
williams peep sight
200gr fn gc
20.0gr of 2400/.6+/- of dacron



the target was to zero the rifle. number 3 really amazed me, two in one hole. my blind butt must've ate a whole bunch of carrots to do this!!!!!!!

[444ttd]

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i shot this at 100 yards. 37 shots on fire forming 35/30.

200gr fn gc
20.0gr of 2400/.6gr of dacron
1726fps avg

win m94


it was hard for me to see the red center, as you can see!!!!!!!! i'm better off using homemade targets.

[reivertom]

After fire forming 50 or so 35-30 from 30-30 casings, I experimented with expanding the case mouth of a few 30-30 with my .358 Win. neck sizing die. It seemed to work OK as long as I lubed the inside of the neck, too. I split a couple, but I can afford to lose a few on the way. Have you ever tried this? I just decided "what the heck?" and ran a few through. If I start with a full length sized 30-30, they should fit in my rifle for the first firing. I know they won't be formed totally right until I fire them in my chamber, but at least I can get there without shooting way undersized bullets. Opinion? Thanks, Tom

[lar45]

You could always blow the cases out with a filler. Cream of wheat or grits. I used 7gns of unique, a 1/4 sheet of tissue paper, then a case full of grits, followed by another plug of tissue paper to form 375 cases from 30-30 brass. I used a punch and compressed the grits to get a more complete form of the brass.