35/30 makes me smile

[444ttd]

i sent a winchester m94(1972) in 30/30 to JES and wouldn't ya know it, he did a 35/30!!!! JES did a dang fine job!!! three cheers for JES!!! i tried to clean my rifle's bore, but it was already clean!!!! three cheers for JES!!!!

i did a williams fp sight because the targets weren't cooperating with me!!! nuthing to do with my eyes..........nope, it was the targets. i bought a ch4d 35/30 dies and 30/30 starline brass(250pcs). i bought 500 200gr fn gc (rcbs) from bull shop.

i took the 30/30 cases and necked them up to .358". i used pure lanolin in my necking up. next was the HF wet tumbler with a 4" pvc. after i dried them, i put in a winchester lrp and i loaded up some 16.0 - 20.0gr of 2400/tuft of dacron under a 200gr fn gc. i fired them and 16.5gr - 17.0gr of 2400 had a soot on them, while 17.5 - 20.0gr did not. 20.0gr of 2400/dacon goes 1 3/4 - 2 1/4" at 100 yards(5 shots/benched). 3 shots goes roughly 3/4" at 100 yards but it will go 1/2" at 100 yards if the gods of shooting let me!!! the 35/30 didn't make a difference(target) on unfired or fired 30/30 starline brass.

i chronoed the load and it is 1726fps avg for the 200gr fn gc and 20.0gr of 2400/dacron. i could take it up an extra grain or two but i am happy with the load. besides, the deer i shoot won't know the difference. in case you are wondering why? my ground blind/stand will only let me see about 50-60 yards. more than that i'll have do a pretty durned good shot thru branches and twigs and brambles to get the deer.

i'm going to go with the 270ish gr fn gc and about 1500-1600fps when the 200gr run out. oh......by the way, the 35/30 with 200gr fn gc and 2400 "kicks" about as much as a 30/30 with 170gr factory loads, i'm saying that it doesn't "kick".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtTxBqOwtnA
https://www.harborfreight.com/dual-d...q=rock+tumbler
https://bullshop.weebly.com/-35-cali...t-bullets.html
https://smile.amazon.com/NOW-Solutio...SJT630D1DBHXNT

[dangitgriff]

Would like to see some of your loaded ammo.

[cwlongshot]

I cannot picture this cartridge. I know I have seen it and read about it but for the life of me... dont remember what it looks like. Cannot be much of a shoulder left is there? I thinking shaded of the 32/40..

Love the 35’s!!

CW

[444ttd]

i had it sitting in my safe for about 25 years+/- . the 30/30 was death on deer but i didn't like it. now it has lease on life!!!

left: 35/30 and a 200gr fn gc
right: 30/30 and a 165gr ranch dog

https://i.imgur.com/o54zLlK.jpg

[cwtebay]

Glad to hear you are enjoying it!!
Is there an advantage to resizing your way? I have just used the cream of wheat method on mine.

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[GBertolet]

I think what you have, is officially called the 35-30/30. Should be a great deer cartridge.

[444ttd]

Glad to hear you are enjoying it!!
Is there an advantage to resizing your way? I have just used the cream of wheat method on mine.

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not that i could see.

[444ttd]

I think what you have, is officially called the 35-30/30. Should be a great deer cartridge.

yes, but the 35/30 sounds "cooler"!!!!

[Texas by God]

Us poor boys have to make do with the 38-55!
Try 25 grains of IMR 3031 under the 200 grain bullet.
35-30 does have a nice ring to it.

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[cwtebay]

I have a ball with mine! I use a 200 grain cast as Texas mentioned, definitely an accurate load. I was too cheap to get actual dies for it, so tried a Lee neck sizing set for 35 Remington and seems to work great. My 12 year old killed a nice whitetail with it last year - anything Winchester and 35 caliber works. Period.

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[richhodg66]

I must admit to being intrigued by this round, but I have a couple of .35 Remingtons and a .358, so can't really justify it. If I ever come across a .30-30 with a shot out bore though...

[bruce drake]

I've been dancing around doing the same for my dad's old .32 Winnie model 94. The original barrel has about 80 years of bullets through it and she's not as accurate as she used to be and could use a reblue on her as well. The old girl could definitely get a new top coat and a fresh bore for the next 30 years for when I pass the rifle along to one of the boys.

Thanks for reminding me that JES does great work.

Now I need to start building a Christmas 2020 fund...

Bruce

[richhodg66]

Us poor boys have to make do with the 38-55!
Try 25 grains of IMR 3031 under the 200 grain bullet.
35-30 does have a nice ring to it.

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I like the .38-55 too, but a .35 will use .38 Special revolver bullets which I have quite a few molds for.

[sandog]

Jes made a .356 Winchester out of an old Glenfield .30-30 for me, he does do an outstanding job.
The thing would outshoot many bolt actions after I got it back from him.

[richhodg66]

I know there have been a lot of threads on this wildcat before, I'm just too last this morning to search. Where does a guy get load data for it? It seems like it's almost simply a rimmed .35 Remington, but it probably isn't quite that simple. I'm sure figuring it out wouldn't be too difficult.

How long/well, does .30-30 brass hold up? It's been my experience that .30-30 brass seems to be weaker than most centerfire rifle brass.

[lar45]

According to Quickload
Case capacity for the 35/30-30 is 50gns with a pressure of 39kpsi
Case capacity for the 35Rem is 51gns with a pressure of 39kpsi
Case capacity for the 356Win is 55gns with a pressure of 52kpsi

So It does indeed look like you might get away with using 35Rem load data, just be careful with max loads.
Hodgdon lists 35 Rem with a Speer 180 loaded to 2.470" with 39gns of H4895 giving 2232fps, I punched this into Quickload and it showed 2259fps @ 32kpsi.
The same powder charge in the 35/30-30 showed 2295fps @ 36kpsi

Hodgdon also lists 45gns of LvR giving 2302fps in the 35 Rem, so there is some performance possibilities.

[nekshot]

Jes made a .356 Winchester out of an old Glenfield .30-30 for me, he does do an outstanding job.
The thing would outshoot many bolt actions after I got it back from him.

Do you have a good answer for that wood!!

[444ttd]

I know there have been a lot of threads on this wildcat before, I'm just too last this morning to search. Where does a guy get load data for it? It seems like it's almost simply a rimmed .35 Remington, but it probably isn't quite that simple. I'm sure figuring it out wouldn't be too difficult.

How long/well, does .30-30 brass hold up? It's been my experience that .30-30 brass seems to be weaker than most centerfire rifle brass.

as i think about it(its been 25+/- years), i loaded the 30/30, 10-12 times, no annealing and they were good to go. i never split the case either.

[John Taylor]

Several years back I made a mistake and installed a a 35 caliber liner in a 30-30. Told the customer it would be a bit longer because I had to get another liner. When he found out I had installed a 35 liner he said he always wanted to try a 35-30-30, save me a lot of trouble.

[T_McD]

So this is a 30/30 necked up to 357 or 358? Like a mini Whelen?