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Thread: Threatenin' To Fix Up That Ol' .56

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    Threatenin' To Fix Up That Ol' .56

    Once upon a time many years ago I got a TC .56 barrel in amongst a deal. The bore was a little scaly but not bad. Well, it's been sitting forever and I'm still almost ready to send it off for .577 bore rifling. Was thinking about duplicating the five groove 48" twist such as the P58's had.
    But then I got to thinking about (hmm, maybe a ) a little faster twist for different lengths and base styles.
    So, what's the fastest twist any you fellas had tried in a .58?
    What happened?

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    Wow, do you feel overwhelmed? I do not have any experience with 58's but someone shoulda reply.

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    @ Good Cheer
    I wont be taking my .56 SB TC that I had Rebored by Hoyt to .61 out till the 1 st when I go Dove hunting.
    So if you can wait till then for the initial report on how it does, I will send you the information.
    I did opt for a slower twist for RB, just to fit my type of shooting.
    But a faster twist might be an interesting rifle for things like Elk Hunting.

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    This sounds good, lets hear more!
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    I took out the Renegade .61 for the second time today.
    It shot 2 1/2" groups at 25 and 50 yards.
    I am very pleased being a Newly Re-Bored Barrel that isn't broke in.
    I got the rifle with a cracked stock.
    I repaired it with epoxy bedding.
    But shooting it last week the epoxy came apart.
    In fact, the epoxy just pulled out in a strip.
    So, this week, I put the barrel on a stock that I got from a guy, That was actually in two pieces when I got it.
    That stock I glued back together with Elmers wood Glue.
    I shot 20 rounds out of it today, and the stock shows no signs of recracking.
    I intend on making a new Full length stock out of Curly Maple for this rifle , once I finish my shop.

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    A slightly smaller than usual .58 bore might work well to allow leaving the front band large enough to be engraving on the rifling with sizing. And sizing a couple full length to have in your pocket for a fast follow up shot when needed. With the plugs being interchangeable on so many Lyman minie molds, maybe there's some good possibilities. Shouldn't be a problem using such a rifle with round ball.

    More thinking to thunk about.

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    LAGS,
    You may want to try repairing that cracked stock again. It sounds like there was still oil soaked into the stock. A heat gun or even an old hairdryer and lots of paper towels to soak up any oil should work. Oven cleaner followed by a good cleaning should also work. It will take off the finish, so you have to re do the stock finish. Acetone as a final cleaning agent should do the trick. Hope it works out for you. Good luck.
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    Thanks .
    I plan to repair the stock again.
    The stock had been stripped with paint stripper and the crack cleaned with Acetone before I put in the bedding compound.
    I had used a different bedding compound than I normally use.
    And I see on other rifles I used it on , if the bedding compound was thin , it disbonded off the wood easily.
    This time I will use Acraglass or Marine Tex to do the repairs.
    Since I have another stock on the rifle right now , I may opt to actually Split the stock in two pieces and repair it with wood glue like I did my other stock.
    It is holding up just fine and you can barely see the old crack.
    The cabinets in the new shop are all built as well as to the bench.
    So it won't be long before I can get back to building my rifles and making my stocks again.
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    This was an extreme case about five years ago.
    Rebarreled specifically for a heavy recoiling .54 "long boolit" barrel.
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    Think I'm gonna stick a front bead and tang peep on it some day.

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    Just another's opinion.
    Have a Big Bore 58. I do believe its factory barrel is a 1-48. Since I typically shoot P/b. I found 1-48 sufficient for my needs in that Big Bore. Being honest.
    Although the ball of a 58 is pretty large and weighty. It's performance (accuracy & energy delivery) I believe doesn't surpass that of a 54's. Compared to the shooting distance a 54 ball is capable of the 58's patched ball is at its best used for short range.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LAGS View Post
    Thanks .
    I plan to repair the stock again.
    The stock had been stripped with paint stripper and the crack cleaned with Acetone before I put in the bedding compound.
    I had used a different bedding compound than I normally use.
    And I see on other rifles I used it on , if the bedding compound was thin , it disbonded off the wood easily.
    This time I will use Acraglass or Marine Tex to do the repairs.
    Since I have another stock on the rifle right now , I may opt to actually Split the stock in two pieces and repair it with wood glue like I did my other stock.
    It is holding up just fine and you can barely see the old crack.
    The cabinets in the new shop are all built as well as to the bench.
    So it won't be long before I can get back to building my rifles and making my stocks again.
    LAGS,
    Good luck. I wish you success!
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    @Good Cheer
    I will be blind pinning the crack when I do the repairs.
    I will drill the stock from the bottom and stop short of the pin coming all the way thru the top of the stock.
    If I recess the pin in the bottom of the stock , I can fill the recess with wood to make the repair " Less Visable "
    I have done that on other stocks in the past and it worked great.
    Plus I pin the stock from top to bottom with dowels drilled under the Tang and trigger so they can't be seen.

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