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Thread: Slug alloys

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    Boolit Grand Master

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    I've been toying with the idea of getting Accurate to make a mould for HB then I can make my own HB pin. Tom can't cut the big groove the way the Kynoch original was (like the CBE) but he can make come close. With the HB it might work for smoothbore but mostly it would drop weight to a reasonable level.

    If launched mildly apparently even the really heavy slugs aren't that bad to shoot. I've shot 800 gr. slugs but those were over a healthy (unhealthy for me) load of Blue Dot. Those weren't too pleasant to shoot! Greg Sappintgon says his 1000 gr. slug isn't bad at all at around 1000 FPS but it still penetrates deeply. Those heavy slugs are hard to stop!

    For the most part though I figure 400 to 600 grs. is a "sweet spot" for weight of 12 ga. slugs. Less lead consumed, less recoil... at least with hefty loads and plenty of poop for most needs as Randy points out.

    Since we're on an "slug alloys" thread that comes into it too. I mostly cast from range scrap or ACWW and sometimes oven heat treated WW. I used to cast my Lyman Fosters from pure lead. So far I have had 0 problem with leading even with the pure lead slugs. Not sure how it goes with rifled guns as I have only shot one rifled gun and about 15 rounds of unlubed ACWW 0.735" RB's went through it. Not a spec of lead came out.

    I can see soft lead slugs causing some grief in rifled guns though.

    What I will be interested in is a range report from rifle vs gun with pics of recovered slugs if possible. I'd like to see if his soft lead CBE Paradox slugs mushroom well. I expect they will but would like to see some. If I ever get one of those CBE moulds I'd like the HP version just because but it is substantially pricier then the solid version. I guess if a guy like me wants a few HP's its likely more cost effective to drill them. I do like recovered mushroomed boolits!

    Need pics of mushroomed Paradox boolits!

    Longbow

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    Yes wounding will happen!

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    Boolit Master

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    I have decent accuracy with my Lee 1 oz. slugs made of straight wheel weights in a cylinder bore barrel, BUT, these are only plinking/fun shoot rounds.
    Do you all think these wouldn't do the job on a deer shot inside of 75 yards? I still have a bunch of factory loaded slugs to hunt with if I decide to but I never thought my cast slugs would be a problem.

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    I think you'd be fine if you can keep them in the vitals. Even at 1000fps, you're going to put a BIG hole in a deer.

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    I really doubt you have the accuracy for a 75 yard shot, but the energy certainly is there. I couldn't keep shots under 4" at 50 yards with any lee slug, let alone 75. Not many have done better.

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    Boolit Master

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    Thanks for the input, 75 yards was a guestimate as 35-40 yards is the farthest I "think" I have shot these slugs.

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    Little different slant here. I've been shooting the old Brenneke pattern slugs for quite a few years now. Rottweil loads a version, as does Brenneke. These things got a large flat on the end with a lip on it, and they seem to be cast pretty hard. Anybody on here ever salvage lead from one to measure hardness?

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    IMHO, the Brenneke slug is still the king of the "Foster-style" slugs, although the Federal True-Ball is a close second. Many of us have pursued the "attached base wad" style of slug for a while now, with varying degrees of success. I do believe that the Brenneke's are harder than other slugs and that , at last partially, that is a factor in their success. Perhaps the 3-D printed basewads will be the answer we have waited for........
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Abbreviations used in Reloading

BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
GC Gas Check