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Thread: BTSniper heavy 6.5mm 180 grain VLD bullet!!!

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    BTSniper heavy 6.5mm 180 grain VLD bullet!!!

    Been working on this one for a couple weeks in my spare time, been thinking about it for a couple years.

    I enjoy the challenge of making a bullet no one else has and of course when you have the right tooling anything is possible. I have probably made many bullets that fit this description but the last one that stands out in my memory was my 130 grain 6mm VLD bullet I was successful with. This awesome 6mm bullet was at least 10 grains heavier then the next heaviest common commercial bullet of this caliber. That 6mm project took me a year from bullet creation to success on target. With a bit of luck I hope to have the same success with my latest bullet creation!

    Here it is!

    My BTSniper 180 grain 6.5mm caliber VLD bullet.






    Berger and Sierra just came out with their latest offering in this caliber at 155 and 156 grains. There are more then a few posts on the net regarding the lack of a heavy 6.5 offering. Even at 156 grains it still seems like there is potential for a heavier commercial offering. I would be willing to bet the heavy bullets commercially offered today are limited to, and by, the number of most common twist rate barrels in the hands of today's 6.5mm shooters, that being a 1-8 twist. With the 8 twist it would seem the heaviest of current offered 6.5 bullets are at their limits regarding stability.

    This weight limit really seems to go against the latest big case offerings in the 6.5mm caliber with the likes of the 26 Nosler, 6.5-300 Weatherby, 6.5 PRC and many of the big 6.5mm wildcats. They have the potential to drive a high BC heavy bullet yet are handicapped by these 145-155 grain weight class of bullets that seem to have an accuracy node well below the full potential of the big case. Sure they can get 3400+ fps from these bullets but then they get a rep for being "barrel burners".....

    So...... it would seem there is potential if one of these big cases was chambered in a 7 twist and had a heavier and higher BC bullet that would shoot accurately at say 3000-3100 fps it would make for some exceptional long range potential with maybe a bit longer barrel life with the slowest of powders......

    This is where having your own dies really comes in!

    I happen to find a 6.5WSM barrel at 28" with a 7 twist! Perfect for the bullet I had in hand just two weeks ago. I now have this barrel in hand. I'm currently waiting on ordered brass and dies.

    I have drawn down 700 jackets that are ready to make these awesome bullets. Still have to bleed some cores. For the fun of it I also drawed down 600 jackets made from 5.7x28 brass

    I have run some numbers in quickload and plan to try RL-33 powder first. This the same powder I had success with in my 6mm-06AI with the heavy 130 grain bullets. With the RL-33 it predicts possible FPS reaching 3000 fps with a 180 grain bullet.

    We shall see!

    Here is my 180 grain 6.5mm bullet in the middle with a 180 grain Berger 7mm bullet on the left and a 140 grain Hornady 6.5mm bullet on the right.




    Keep posted......


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    BT
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    Now that sir, Is a thing of beauty...........

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    My bullet happens to have the same 11s nose profile as the Sierra 142 grain match king. I suppose I could go even more VLD with the likes of the Berger nose profiles but then I loose a bit of weight potential with the formed bullet for given jacket.

    The barring surface of the bullet is long but not bad. I get away with a little gain in having a slightly longer boat tail vs. both Berger and Sierra 6.5mm offerings. This bullet actually mirrors the look of my 6mm 130 grain bullet quite well and that one shot awesome for me.

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    Thought you might like that there M.A.D
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    I find it funny that people sook about barrel burners, Why not get a barrel with a shank thats say 4-5 inch es long and a barrel thats 4 inches longer than what you want to end up with... Eg Start off with 32 inches, By the time you burn the barrel out, you get 4 re chambers out of it.. Sure you will loose a little bit of velocity each time, But you still get full use out of the barrel..

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    With that quick of a twist would it be a candidate for a gain twist rifling?

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    Never tried a gain twist.

    Only worry I have is if the jacket thickness is enough to withstand the fast twist. My 130 grain bullets had a bit thicker jacket.
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    I know benchmark barrels offers a gain twist and they make excellent barrels but at the moment I just needed a barrel to make "proof of concept" I picked up this barrel for a song.
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    I would think that a gain twist would be easier on the bullet. But just a thought I really know nothing about this.

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    Gun is together, brass is almost here, swaged 500 cores this evening.

    Getting closer........

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    What jacket are you using? I assume you are drawing it down from a larger caliber jacket so it is long enough for your bullet.

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    30 cal RCE jacket drawn down to 6.5mm
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    Quote Originally Posted by BT Sniper View Post
    30 cal RCE jacket drawn down to 6.5mm
    Which I hate to say is no longer available since RCECO/Richard Corbin has retired and closed down his website. I do see he is selling some leftover dies on flebay, but last I spoke to him he had no jackets avaliable.

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    Search for 1.3" 30cal jackets. I have seen them listed for sale by someone else. Probably picked up all he had when he was clearing them out at discount now trying to turn profit.

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    Just finished seating cores in about 300 jackets.

    Brass is here.

    A lot closer to sending these beauties down range.


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    Check out my vendor page for available products and prices!
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    Good shooting and swage on!

    Brian

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