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    I'm impressed with PC

    Went out last Sunday and shot for accuracy and chronographed some loads.
    I have a Wildcat I built, the best accuracy I got from it before was 3" at 50 yrds
    and 1820 FPS with light leading. I picked up a Lyman 457406 some time don't remember where or when.

    Well Sunday I got this.
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    Pretty happy with that.
    Those who choose violence as a first option are typically confronted by somebody else using violence as a last resort.

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    PC works and keeps your hands and equipment clean. Welcome to the club, you can't argue with those results

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    Agreed. Casting and powdercoating have been a tremendous boon for me and my shooting. Nice groups. Post a pic of the rifle!

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    And post details on your wildcat cartridge!

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    Congrats... nice groups

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    What distance was that shot at? Yes, please post info on your rifle too.

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    Must be clear powder coating? Give us some 411 on the wildcat and rifle. I'll bet you could clean Lamar's clock with that kind of accuracy

    Not that it would take much!
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    You've cought me at a bad time, went camping last weekend and sanded all the old finish off.
    I'll get a nekid picture tomorrow.

    I bought a Siamese Mauser chambered in 45-70 decades ago.
    I ordered a carbine from Navy Arms. It had problems seems the front sight screw went all the way into the bore. The LGS sent it back but they didn't have another carbine so I got a rifle.
    I had nothing but trouble with it feeding and retaining cartridges in the mag when cycling the bolt.

    I still had the big bore bug.

    Later I read an article about the 458X2'' by Will Hafler titled "The Bestest Brush Gun".
    He talked about a rifle he built on a Rem #600 20 inch barrel with a long throat and a 1 in 14" twist.
    Said cast loads were hard to develop due to the fast twist and long throat. He also talked about using 350 Rem Mag brass trimmed to 2".

    I figured the belted cartridge would work in a bolt gun better than rimmed.
    I also thought that since this is my build why trim the extra brass off?
    The caliber is 350 Rem Mag necked to 458 "45-350".
    I bought some P14 Enfield actions long a go when they were cheap. Bolt face is right and changed the mag box and follower to a 1917 Enfield.
    Figured if the 350 case didn't work I could chamber to 458 Win Mag, plus I wasn't limited in OAL.
    I did the action work, opened the bottom of the feed rails to retain the cylindrical round and worked the feed ramp. The rifle feeds flawless.
    Made a D reamer and throater. Used a Richards Micro fit stock (never again) w blind mag.
    Barrel is a Douglas 1X22 twist made with a short throat since I have longer cases.

    I form cases the COW method and get cases that when cleaned up are 2.170".
    I also think the reason I don't get better accuracy with 500 grain bullets is it beats the crap out of me on the bench.

    The above load is a 457406 Lyman, Smokes transparent copper and 49 grains Reloader 7. at 50 yards.
    Speed is 1902 FPS that's 4130 FP's energy with a cast 16 to 1 alloy boolet and low pressure signs.
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    So its a 3” 458.

    My friend has a 2” 458 and its one of his favorites for plinkin and cast bullet launchin. Its easy shooter as its such a big gun!

    Good deal on the CB that are PC! I shoot some plain base 300’s from my 450 BM in a bolt to 16-1900 fps and have never seen leading.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cwlongshot View Post
    So its a 3” 458.

    My friend has a 2” 458 and its one of his favorites for plinkin and cast bullet launchin. Its easy shooter as its such a big gun!

    Good deal on the CB that are PC! I shoot some plain base 300’s from my 450 BM in a bolt to 16-1900 fps and have never seen leading.

    CW
    Nope it's a 458 x 2.170", if he would've put a wider belt and trimmed .070" inches off he could have called it the 450 Marlin
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    I did this before the Marlin.
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    I put up a .450 Marlin in a P14 with a Richards stock too. AA wood but took a lot of work to even it up. I guess I decided I didn’t need to launch that much lead so I traded it. Man, I’m dumb.
    Oh yes, I’m a newbie at PC and I’m liking it as well. I still like LLA too, though.

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    I like coating so much I sold all my lube and lube sizer
    no need for them anymo
    Hit em'hard
    hit em'often

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    without PC I would not even shoot lead bullets.. Hated grease lubing, all the variables, the mess, cleaning dies ect
    [SIZE=4][B]Selling Hi Quality Powdercoating Powder

    I carry a Nuke50 because cleaning up the mess is Silly !!

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    I am not crazy my mom had me tested

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    I only lube my black powder loads now.
    Here are some photos of my rifle the light doesn't show how pretty the wood really is.

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    I'm going to try some basket weave carving on the stock next.
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    Live a good, honorable life. Then when you get older and think back, you’ll enjoy it a second time.

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    Live a good, honorable life. Then when you get older and think back, you’ll enjoy it a second time.

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    Those who choose violence as a first option are typically confronted by somebody else using violence as a last resort.

    Live a good, honorable life. Then when you get older and think back, you’ll enjoy it a second time.

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    Id about rather go back to loading handgun ammo on a single stage press then use bullet lube again. Same lube in my star will probably be in it the day I die.

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    Here I am shooting my 45-350 rifle.

    https://youtu.be/Ol2XI4CuCXc
    Those who choose violence as a first option are typically confronted by somebody else using violence as a last resort.

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    I took all the lube out of my RCBS sizer and still use it for some calibers if I don't have the right NOE insert. But powder is what I have gone to.
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