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    Crazy find at the local public range.

    First day in a long time my back wasn’t bothering me to the point of having trouble walking, so I decided to go for a short motorcycle ride. I haven’t had any windshield time this summer. About 8pm I came up to the road that goes down to the conservation shooting range. I don’t shoot there but sometimes I do go there to pick up brass. I decided what the heck, probably too hot today but I will see what I can find, so I turned down the road and parked at the range. No one was there. I guess I met the last folks leaving on my way in. From the parking lot I could see there had been some activity because the trash cans were pretty well full.

    There is a small creek that separates the parking lot and the range and there is a concrete bridge that crosses it. I always look in the water as I cross because sometimes folks lose things in water or they throw stuff in the water. As I looked down I saw a long funny shaped stick laying there in about 6 inches of water, didn’t think anything about it until I got up to the benches. I found a Military type sling, an old leather ammo pouch, and what looked to be a mosen nagant cleaning rod. There was lots of old milsurp 7.62x54R steel cases laying around, as well as the usual suspects, like 9mm,45acp, and 223, nothing I wanted to pick up so I grabbed the sling pouch and rod and headed back across the bridge to put the items in my saddle bags. As I was crossing the bridge the light wasn’t as bad on the water and that funny looking stick looked more like a gun.

    Now I have heard guys jokingly say they were going to toss said rifle off in the brush, but never in a million years would I have believed someone would actually do it. I worked my way down the bank and sure enough there was the rifle that the cleaning rod went to. I pulled it out of the water and it still had so much cosmoline on it that the water beaded off of it. I put the cleaning rod and sling back on it after shaking the water out of it,slung it on my back and rode home.

    I pulled it apart and dried it then cleaned it real well. The bore doesn’t look to bad for an old military rifle, it is for sure good enough for a cast boolit shooter. There is a few scratches on the wood and a couple small scratches on the blueing where it hit the rocks, but other than that I can’t find a thing wrong with it. It is a model 91/30, and it looks better than a lot that I have seen. I don’t know what they are worth but it ought to be worth more than nothing. I thought about one years ago when they were $100 for a cast shooter, but couldn’t justify the rifle, dies, and mold costs. I hate Lee dies but they are cheap and will work for what I want to do. Now to find some cheap brass.

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    Nice find. Cool points if you rode home with it slung across your back?

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    Cool.

    The only thing I ever found that was thrown away like that was golf clubs.

    At a local golf course, one Tee and green/hole backed up into a wooded area that us kids used to hang out it.
    I'd seen golf clubs wrapped around a tree there a couple times.
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    Sweet find boerrancher, hope it works out for you. That would be an added bonus to someone else's wall hanger/creek filler.

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    Sweet find! Wonder why the previous owner threw it in the creek? Check Graf's for brass.

    https://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog...ategoryId/771?

    ETA: Guess all they have in stock now is Lapua. So much for cheap brass.
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    Hahaha. God story nice find!!

    All I ever find are occasional ram rods... DOWN RANGE!

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    They didn't leave you any ammo? Some people are just rude!

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    They're better rifles than a lot think, at least mine have been. Pretty good cast shooters too, and now all the manufacturers have boxer primed brass available.

    Clean her up and start working with it, I bet you'll like it for the price. Gotta wonder what kind of idiot would do that.

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    That is a once in a lifetime find I'd say. Good thing you are pretty observant or you might not have seen it. Not to put a downer on your bonus gun, but if it were me I'd at least check the register on stolen guns just to be sure it isn't listed there.
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    Boerrancher,

    You may want to report that "find" to the local LEO. Just to "CYA".

    Yeah perhaps it sounds like I am being a bit too, "Joe Citizen", but I mention it for your own protection.

    Suppose the owner has regrets and goes back to retrieve the rifle & it is not there, so he/she decides to report it as stolen to the LEO so to perhaps collect some insurance $$ on the loss.

    It could even have been those folks you passed as you went to the range & if they say that the last person they saw at the range before it went missing was a guy on a motorcycle & they describe, "you" as a possible suspect.

    Now they have a description of a possible "suspect" & a supposedly stolen rifle...

    That nice "find" may not be so nice, if such a scenario I mention happens.

    Better to report your "find" (Make sure to get a receipt for it.) & see if someone comes to claim it who is not in anyway related to the LEO office you report it to. If no one claims it then such "found" items should be returned to you as "your" property since it was "abandoned". If it gets claimed, then the claimant should be willing to offer some sort of a "finders fee"/"reward" for your honesty. ( If not & likely not due to the actions of throwing it away, but perhaps there is a bit of good in an idiot.)

    BTW, I would not be doing any more "cleanup" for the other person who previously owned said rifle either, as it may not end up being "yours", if you do report it...

    "Better safe, than sorry".

    {With my luck, the scenario I described above would end up with me in legal troubles, so I would report the rifle & hope for the best... I am not willing to take the chance on things going bad for me & perhaps losing my firearms rights, or at minimum, dealing with the legal issues. The rifle, to me, would not be worth that. }

    Do as ya like, & I think it is a great find for ya, "if" there are not other strings attached to the find that come up later on like the scenario I described.

    G'Luck! on whatever ya decide to do!
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    Quote Originally Posted by nicholst55 View Post
    Sweet find! Wonder why the previous owner threw it in the creek? Check Graf's for brass.

    https://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog...ategoryId/771?

    ETA: Guess all they have in stock now is Lapua. So much for cheap brass.
    Patience! My guess is they will have PRVI brass in stock soon.
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    Yep! You can be notified when it's back in stock.
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    What you didn't get a background check?
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    No, he went back to check the ground.



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    Quote Originally Posted by JBinMN View Post
    Boerrancher,

    You may want to report that "find" to the local LEO.


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    I have to agree with JBinMN's suggestion.
    I'm not sure what type of unhinged individual tosses a rifle into the creek and leaves the accessories strewn about, in a public space, but I surely wouldn't want a connection to people like that, without a police report.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdfoxinc View Post
    What you didn't get a background check?
    I'm sure he looked behind him before he picked it up. He stated it was still covered with cosmoline. I bet the previous owner cleaned the bore out with the first shot. The recoil must have been sweet. I bet he couldn't hit diddly squat and was mad as hell. At least he helped the "new owner" out by throwing it in the creek after firing all that corrosive ammo. Nice find. The last batch of 91/30's I saw at AIM Surplus were priced over $300.00. Years ago my local boomstick vendor would get them by the crate. I have 1 each per year Tula Arsenal starting in 1920-1945 and the same for Izzies. I was paying $79.95 + sales tax a pop with all accessories. With a C&R no background check fee.I bought so many he gave me the empty wooden Russian rifle crates.Whenever he got a new crate he would call me so I could break it open and I got the pick of the litter.The early years are converted dragoons.I think I made a good investment. This dosen't count the original 91's,M38's,M44's,91/59's and the various Fins I picked up over the years.
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    I will not take it to my county sheriffs office. Too many firearms disappear from there. I know the Sheriff and he is a good man, but he inherited a swamp full of bottom feeders for officers, but he has been removing them. I am not concerned because I won’t sell the rifle and it will never leave the Farm because I have my own ranges built and I can shoot out to 1000 yds. No need for me to ever shoot anyplace else. There is also a million Harley Davidsons in the area because until March of this year the only bike dealer was strictly Harleys.
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