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    My uncle was a cook on one of the early nuke subs. His galley had lots of pipes and conduits running through it and occasionally a speck of dirt or grease would be found in a nook or cranny during inspection and he would catch heck. He figured that if he could get some stainless steel sheet metal covers made for the pipes and conduits he could keep the galley clean and neat. He got the ok from his superior to try but was told that it would take forever to get all the red tape and forms done. He went to the sheet metal shop on the base and was told it would be months before they could get to his job etc. He asked if the guys in the shop liked coffee and ham sandwiches. They did. One of his jobs was ordering food for the boat. So on his next order he ordered a few extra hams and 20# cans of coffee. He went to the metal shop with a jeep load of coffee and ham. The next morning there were guys in the galley measuring and looking. A few days later all the troubling pipes were covered in stainless steel with hinged access points. The galley sparkled. the captain came to the galley and asked how he got things done so fast. then said "I don't want to know",

    He told another story about a marine diesel engine at one base that was due for a rebuild. It was duly stripped cleaned gauged, measured etc. and everything put back in spec. When the engine was started there was no oil pressure. The engine was torn down again and everything checked. all was where it should be. The engine was re assembled and started. Again no oil pressure. A factory tech from the engine manufacturer was flown in and ordered the engine torn down. He checked the parts and everything was good. The engine was re assembled and started. No oil pressure. The factory rep tapped the oil pressure gage with the handle of a screwdriver and oil pressure was optimal.
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    My good friend "Chuck" was an anti- tank gunner during WW2. He went into France on D-Day +3. As his unit had vehicles they began picking up all sorts of auto weapons until every man had a Browning 1919 belt fed to have in their own foxhole plus a Thompson and all the grenades they wanted. As the year wore on they picked up a couple more vehicles and had plenty of ammo, food and fuel always.
    They were in Belgium when the "Bulge" stated supporting an Infantry unit on line that bugged out without communicating to their position up on a hill on the flank. Real fast they got surrounded.
    But they had a caliber .30 machinegun in every hole and ammo boxes stacked in every hole. Numerous times the Germans tried to overrun their hill as it overlooked the road they wanted. But from whatever direction they came from they were met with overwhelming machinegun fire and anti-personnel canister rounds fired from the numerous 37mm guns. Finally the Germans gave up and choose a different route leaving that hill along.
    About 10 days later an American unit trying to get somewhere stumbled upon them and radioed their headquarters that the lost AT platoon was well and needed directions to US lines.
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    Used to know a guy who participated in the town to town street fighting in France as they pushed the German Army back to Berlin.

    He talked of how ferocious the fighting was.
    He said the troops didn't really care that much about liberating any given town for it's own sake.

    They fought for the towns because once you captured it, you could sleep in a basement somewhere and have a fire,
    instead of being out on the snow or rain in a open field.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DukeConnors View Post
    My father was a ww2 seabee. He hated it and didn't want to be there.

    Anytime I was a kid and bitched about something his response was " you don't know nothing, you should have been on Saipan when the japs counter attacked".

    Thank god I never had a day like that.

    He was a better man than me and I miss him every day.
    I just finished reading "Goodbye Darkness" by William Manchester who served in the Pacific during WWII as a Marine Corps Sergeant. He described the fighting on Saipan in graphic detail. If you want to know about the Pacific Theater, read this book. BTW, the Marines loved the Seabees, who fought alongside them, and prepared runways for air support.

    I grew up near Port Hueneme, home of a USNCBC battalion, and I believe, the engineer school. When I grew up I joined the Army mostly to get away from the Navy.

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    My Dad was a Radio Operator in the Air Force during the early days of the Korean War.
    He was among the first few guys stationed on Adak, Alaska and was there for 18 months.
    Back then, they lived and worked in those Gomer Pyle looking Quonset huts that had kerosene heaters.
    He told of it getting so cold in the winter, the kerosene for the heaters would freeze.

    Besides the radio listening post, Adak was also a re-fueling station for planes going up from Korea to Japan,
    over to Adak, then on down to California.
    Several different types of planes couldn't quite make the flight going to Hawaii or Guam, then to California.

    Among their duties there was working the fueling station.
    Pop said pilots coming from the war zone would get out, walk around to stretch their legs, look out over the frozen nothing,
    and several would say, "This place is worse than where I came from". As soon as the fuel hose come off, they left.


    One of his buddies had traded for or bought a real nice Russian sniper rifle from somebody passing through.
    To get it home without it being stolen/confiscated, he mailed it home piece by piece a few days or a week apart to his Mom.
    A couple days before he transferred out, he got it back.
    His Mom had taken all the parts to a local gunsmith, had it reassembled,, and she mailed it back to him.

    He sold it to another buddy, who may have had better luck with getting it back home...
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    Well, in a similar vein, when stationed in Germany my outfit was billeted in what had been the Adolph Hitler Kaserne, the last of some very modern multi-storied barracks built prior to WW II, all lined up in a neat row. They had no difficulty in fitting 2 Infantry Companies of approx. 150 men into one barrack building, each company taking up about 1 1/2 floors. So in my building there was C and D companies, and just across the company street was E and HQ companies. Each building had a very secure arms room in the basement, steel door, and the locks of which were checked a couple of times a night by the CQ (Charge of Quarters) NCO. When in garrison, during the daytime when the arms room was open, there was an arms specialist constantly on duty in the room. The point of this is that theft from an arms room was almost impossible.

    So, one night, in the middle of the night, came a shake down inspection. Everyone out of their bunks in their skivvies, open your wall and foot lockers, and stand by. Entering the rooms came several NCOs, a couple of which weren't from our company, and everything was thoroughly ransacked and turned over, even wall lockers tipped to the side and peered beneath. It was noted that the NCOs were thoroughly P.O.ed, but no explanation was offered.

    The next night it happened again, and then a third time. From the lights that were on in the barracks across the street it was apparent that the very same thing was occurring over in E and HQ companies. Following the 3rd shake down, and only then, was the story circulated that a 1911 .45 pistol was missing in E company, and that the soldier to whom it was assigned claimed that it had been lost on maneuvers. He said that when he went to turn it in his holster was empty. So, out into the field went E company where they spent four days going over everywhere that they had been during the past exercise, searching and searching for the missing .45, but coming up empty. Well, the soldier's story was somewhat plausible in that something like a .45 could be permanently lost once it fell out of a holster in the forest, or it could have even been picked up and taken home by a German civilian; but, as was also pointed out, you would think that he would have missed the weight of the pistol. After a few more days nothing more was heard about it, and it went "out of mind."

    About three months passed, and then early one morning two members of the Army C.I.D. appeared in the Orderly Room of Company E. They set the missing .45 on the 1st Sgt.'s desk and demanded the presence of Pvt. XXXXXX who had "lost" the weapon. It appears that he had been mailing it back to the States a piece at a time, not realizing that his mail would be watched. Not too smart. In short order he was on his way to the Disciplinary Barracks at Levenworth, and for all I know may still be there, although it seems unlikely since this occurred 56 years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Der Gebirgsjager View Post
    It appears that he had been mailing it back to the States a piece at a time, not realizing that his mail would be watched. Not too smart. In short order he was on his way to the Disciplinary Barracks at Levenworth, and for all I know may still be there, although it seems unlikely since this occurred 56 years ago.
    The military doesn't have any sense of humor at all when it comes to lost or stolen weapons.
    At least in Garrison or peacetime.
    I was on a Naval Air Station when the armory came up short a M-16.

    The MPs searched every vehicle going off base for almost a day. And a good search of all the work spaces.
    It was found to be a mix up of their count, custody cards, and serial numbers list, and not stolen or missing after all.
    But they about turned the place upside down looking for that rifle until they figured it out.
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    "The military doesn't have any sense of humor at all when it comes to lost or stolen weapons.
    At least in Garrison or peacetime." Winger Ed

    Or even parts. While in Basic Training at Ft. Dix we had guard duty. The course work that week had included assembly and dis-assembly of the M-16. One of the other Private's disassembled his rifle while on post, losing the firing pin. If one of the Sergent's of the Guard hadn't known someone in the Marksmanship unit I would probably still be there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winger Ed. View Post
    The military doesn't have any sense of humor at all when it comes to lost or stolen weapons.
    At least in Garrison or peacetime.
    I was on a Naval Air Station when the armory came up short a M-16.

    The MPs searched every vehicle going off base for almost a day. And a good search of all the work spaces.
    It was found to be a mix up of their count, custody cards, and serial numbers list, and not stolen or missing after all.
    But they about turned the place upside down looking for that rifle until they figured it out.
    no they do not. my first ship was an LST, and one of the marines lost his weapon. that ship was torn apart endlessly for weeks. the rifle never did surface.

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    My buddy lost an M16 while on guard duty in port on his sub. Said the sling broke and the rifle was falling before he knew what was happening. He said he could still hear the sound of the rifle hitting the hull and splashing into the water. Of course he instantly was in deep dog do and questioned for hours and told the slings never break. A diver was sent down but came up empty handed. More questioning and the diver was sent down again. Just before the diver came up his hand brushed against something in the murky water. The rifle was almost completely buried in the mud. Once they got the rifle to the surface they found that the sling swivel rivet had let go and allowed the rifle to fall. Said he bought the diver a bottle as a thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nazgul View Post
    When I was in High School I worked at a truck garage. There was a grumpy old man that only I got along with for some reason. Art was in an artillery unit in WW2. He was a couple years older than the others so was the unit's "Old Man". He said he was somewhat undecided about the war, it was what you did at the time. Until his unit liberated Auschwitz. After that he hated the Germans, they killed as many as they could anyway they could. He still had some of it when I knew him.

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    That guy must have been in the Russian army. Auschwitz was liberated by the Russians January 25, 1945. Either that or he was confused and it was one of the other concentration camps located in western Germany
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    Sorry January 27 not the 25th. More than likely Dachau or Buchenwald. Not that the name make a difference.
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    The jury duty thread reminded me again of my Dad's old friend again that had been a early 1960's issue USMC Lt .

    I told him of a story I'd read in the Reader's Digest Humor in Uniform section.
    It was about a young 2ndLt. who had the Officer Of The Day duty one hot, hot summer day at a Grunt base in the Carolinas.
    Back then, even the Commanding General's office probably didn't have a air conditioner.

    He toured the barracks, and back in the 'Day Room' or the common area that had a TV, pool table, the Duty NCO's desk,
    he cast his gaze on the Coke machine. They were 15 cents.
    He dug in his pocket, pulled out a nickel & a couple pennies, but not 15 cents, and the machine didn't make change.

    He asked the Duty NCO, "Corporal, do you have change for a quarter"?
    "No Sir".

    He asked another guy sitting around,,, and another "No Sir".
    Last guy in the room, was a kid playing pool... "Marine, do you have change for a quarter"?
    The kid reached into his pocket, pulled out 2-3 dollars in silver coins, and replied, "Sure Buddy".

    ,,,,,,,, the young 2nd Lt took him up & down the road.
    "Do you know how to address an Officer? Do you know how to talk to the Officer of the Day? blah, blah, blah..
    OK,,, let's try this again. Private, do you have change for a quarter"?

    With a straight face,,,, he replied, "No Sir".


    I asked my Dad's buddy if anything like that ever happened to him when he was on active duty.
    He told me, "EVERY,,,,,,, SINGLE,,,,,,,,,,,,, DAY".
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    Quote Originally Posted by poppy42 View Post
    Sorry January 27 not the 25th. More than likely Dachau or Buchenwald. Not that the name make a difference.
    Thanks, may have been Dachau. Long time and lot of miles ago..

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    Quote Originally Posted by richhodg66 View Post
    I just got done reading a book called Descent into Darkness by a retired Navy officer who was a young salvage diver in the states and was suddenly on the first thing smoking to Pearl Harbor on December 8th, 1941. The book has a lot of this kind of stuff in it like this. Besides Pearl Harbor, he spent time out in the fleet, got a ship shot out from under him and spent a few months on Guadalcanal before returning to finish things up at Pearl. Interesting stuff, and I don't think men that brave exist anymore, at least not in those numbers. The Greatest generation.

    I too have this book, and it was really, really good book!

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    My father was a gunnery instructor in the Royal Navy and had little do do with Americans during the war. Getting him to talk about his service was like pulling teeth but he came out with a few, one of which I shall relate here. After his ship, HMS Somali, was sunk while on convoy duty returning from Russia, he was transferred to an old paddle steamer, (the Jenny Dean) based around Woolwich docks on the Thames. This paddle steamer had been fitted out with as many anti aircraft guns of various types as possible and it's daily routine was to set out into the Thames estuary and spend the day shooting at anything that was German. He had a quite exciting war one way and another as you might imagine because the Germans returned the compliment with vigour.

    Now, for some time, where they docked of an evening there was a large American ship, he didn't say exactly what but it wasn't a fighting ship as such. For some reason the crew of that ship thought it immensely entertaining to mock the paddle steamer as it splashed off out of sight to do it's daily work, and of course, the same upon it's return. It apparently got well past being amusing. One night there was an air raid in the vicinity. The crew of the American ship were sensibly out of sight during the course of it, but my father's ship got busy at the enemy aircraft as you might expect. When dawn broke, the American ship's superstructure had mysteriously been shot to pieces. Attributed to the remarkable accuracy of the German aircraft, or not, as the case may be.

    He also related that while moored one night an air raid has caused nearby warehouses to burn fiercely. In the mayhem some crew members managed to rescue a large number of sacks of sugar from one fiercely burning warehouse. Apparently, the Jenny Dean was one of the few, possibly the only, RN ship that had sugar in their cocoa for the rest of the war.

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    The ingenuity of Jack Tar is legendary.

    I expect that the story told in the classic Brit comedy Whisky Gallore (aka Tight Little Island in its US release) is also true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Outpost75 View Post
    The ingenuity of Jack Tar is legendary.

    I expect that the story told in the classic Brit comedy Whisky Gallore (aka Tight Little Island in its US release) is also true.

    Rule Britannia! Splice the Main Brace!
    Hic!

    Certainly based upon areal incident.

    SS Politician was a cargo ship that ran aground off the coast of the Hebridean island of Eriskay in 1941. Its cargo included 22,000 cases of malt whisky and £3 million worth of Jamaican bank notes. Much of the whisky was recovered by islanders from across the Hebrides, although this was against the marine salvage laws. With no duty paid on the whisky, members of HM Customs and Excise became involved in chasing and prosecuting those who had removed the cargo.

    Politician was built in 1923 under the name London Merchant. She was a general cargo ship that traded between Britain and the United States and Canada, and up and down the west coast of the US. In 1924—during the years of American prohibition—Oregon's state prohibition commissioner seized her cargo of whisky even though had been approved and sealed by the US federal authorities. After the British Embassy in Washington complained to the Federal authorities, the whisky was released back to the ship. During the Second World War Politician participated in the Atlantic convoys between the UK and US. In February 1941 she was on her way to the north of Scotland, where she was to rendezvous with a convoy when she ran aground.

    The local islanders visited the wreck of Politician continually to unload whisky, even though it was in a hold filled with marine engine oil and seawater. Customs men undertook raids, arresting many and seizing boats of those they suspected of taking part. The excise authorities pushed for changes under the punitive customs legislation, but the authorities charged those arrested with theft. Many were found not guilty or not proven, and several were fined; 19 were incarcerated at Inverness Prison for terms ranging between 20 days and two months. The whisky raised by the salvors was shipped back to its bonded warehouses, although this was also looted during its journey. No-one was injured or killed in the accident. Two salvage crews removed much of the cargo, and the second crew raised the wreck off the seabed. Part of the ship's hold, and its stern, were cut away and sank to the bottom of Eriskay Sound. To ensure no more looting took place, the remainder of the hold was destroyed with gelignite.

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    Worked with a guy for awhile that was Black Shoe Navy and spent most of his tour
    on one of those Amphibious Assault ships carrying hundreds of Grunts and Amtraks.

    Out in the ocean cruising along, there isn't much to do.
    If you're going to tease the Grunts, you have to be rather creative.

    On the USS Big Gray, the Grunts had to stand in line for almost everything.
    And whatever you were waiting for had very short, precise hours.

    A few sailors would line up in front of a door out on deck.
    A Grunt or two would come by and ask what they were waiting for.
    They'd tell him, "I need to buy a couple things, and am waiting for the door to open".
    They would get in line with them.

    After there was a few, one sailor at a time would say, "I have to go on Watch", "I don't need anything this bad",
    "I'll have to come back later", etc. and trickle away, leaving several Marines standing in line in front of the door.
    The sailors would drift off, and go to another level of the ship to watch...…..

    Sooner or later one of the Marine Staff NCOs who had been on those ships before, would come along and ask,
    "What are you people doing"?

    "We're waiting for the door to open".
    Then the Gunny Sgt or whatever would open the door,
    showing that nothing was in there except some paint cans or a stack of mops.

    Then it would start...………
    A real life episode of Gomer Pyle with Sgt. Carter screaming and jumping up & down.
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    Same guy from the above story:
    He was a deep water sailor who had come home on leave, got in a car accident, and broke both legs.
    When he got out of the hospital, he was too busted up for sea duty, only had a few months left,
    so the Navy just attached him to the closest USN command and let him ride out his enlistment on light duty there.
    He ended up in our shop on the Naval Air Station.

    One day, he asked me, "Do Marines live on candy bars"?

    He went on and told of going to sea one time, and they had a brand new Ensign.
    They put him in charge of ordering all the stuff for the candy machines and the ship's store.
    Among his other duties, he was the Officer in Charge of candy bars.

    Before going out, of the few hundred sailors, he'd asked almost every sailor on the boat,
    "How many candy bars do you eat a day"? They told him things like,
    "None", "Almost none", "Maybe one every few days if I'm on Watch", "2 or 3 in a week maybe", and so on.

    So, the young Ensign did the math, multiplying out- how many weeks they'd be at sea, how many candy bars a day
    times how many sailors, he got a number,,,,,,,,, and plugged in the same figure for about 1200 Marines.
    Then ordered the appropriate number of candy bars for the cruise.

    The guy finished the story with,
    "I don't think we were out of sight from California before there wasn't a single candy bar left on the ship".
    Last edited by Winger Ed.; 08-31-2019 at 10:10 PM.
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