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    Hello groovy mike
    PLEASE slug the bore and cast the chamber, PLEASE
    The loading for the 9.3x57R will be a piece of cake.
    Take a 444 Marlin case and size it in an 8mm Mauser sizing die.
    Then expand the neck to hold a .366 bullet.
    Presto, that should be what you need

    OR buy these JR ammo, pull the bullets and send them to me and expand
    the necks to 366

    http://www.natchezss.com/ammo.cfm?co...&type=0&mfg=ZY

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    Quote Originally Posted by groovy mike View Post
    Just picked up a cape gun with a 9.3 bore. Does anyone happen to have components to load 9.3x57R ? That is my best guess. Chamber is slightley longer than 38-55 which chambers just fine but is .10 too wide a projectile, and 9.3x72R is about a half inch too long....
    You could just expand 8x57R, correct?

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    Hello
    You COULD if you really knew it is a 9.5 x 57R, chamber cast is the key
    Mike

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    Yes God is good, he gives us what we nead and sometimes the desires of our hearts too.
    BIC/BS[/QUOTE]

    amen, bro., amen

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    Quote Originally Posted by NuJudge View Post
    My Dad bought the mold probably 40 years ago for a Scottish 400/360 WR 2.75 NE double he had. He sold the rifle many years ago, and about 20 years ago I bought a Valmet double in 9.3x74R, so he gave me the mold.

    The bullets shoot well with moderate charges of 2400 and 4759. I've never tried fillers (they scare me). In the past I sized to .366 in a Lyman sizer/lube machine. Recently I got a .368 size die, and intend to try Free checks.

    I think I could be convinced to provide some samples.

    CDD
    Getting out the mining equipment, digging up an ANCIENT thread, buddy is considering buying a 400/360, the .366" dia. version(there are several).

    Anybody load for this?

    Any loads that work for you?

    Already have a NOE mold for the 9.3x74r so I'm set on the mold, just looking for a start place.

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    I’ve loaded for the 400/360 a bit but would have to look up what I used.
    Should be OK with low end 9.3x74 loads as a start and working up for regulation assuming it’s a double you’re talking about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huvius View Post
    I’ve loaded for the 400/360 a bit but would have to look up what I used.
    Should be OK with low end 9.3x74 loads as a start and working up for regulation assuming it’s a double you’re talking about.
    It's a double, haven't heard if the buddy and the seller came to a meeting of the minds or not, already load cast in the 9.3x74r so I already have loads for that. Hopefully I'll get as lucky with this as the 8x50r I fooled with several years ago. First load put both barrels into 1-1/2" at 25 yards with 4 rounds from each barrel and two shooters splitting the shooting. For old guys with not the best eye sight that's pretty good and they weren't crossing yet. At that point we just backed up and started whacking the dinger for all it was worth.

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    This is what happens when you let old guys out un-supervised.

    The hole through the back was a cast 416 Rigby, jacket bullets kind of plasma cut their way through the old oxygen tanks.

    The BIG cast elephant caliber stuff fractures and tears chunks off the dingers.

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    Got 8 400/360's loaded up this afternoon, hope to try them tomorrow. They're for a British double that is absolutely stunning. Used 5744 under the NOE boolit I use in the 9.3x74R.

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    Rounds didn't chamber, rattled in just like doubles do. ( What a lovely sound!). Tried closing the breech. Almost, but not just completely closed. When I loaded them, I left them a little long, my boolit is a blunter profile and the full sized diameter of the boolit is out side of the case. Guess I'm going to have to fully seat them into the case.

    Rifles belongs to a buddy who lives a dozen miles away, haul the loads home and re-seat the boolits and try again. Probably today after the honey do's and the stuff I need to do to get the family farm ready for sale. My mother passed away this summer and the three sisters want their money. NOW.


    And I'm NOT going fo do a pound cast on the throat. This rifle costs more than my truck and I don't need my buddy stroking out when I even suggest whacking on his rifle.

    Repair parts for this rifle simply don't exist and paying a competent doubles rifle gunsmith to make parts is out of my price range if I screw something up. And at times I have the ability to screw up a free lunch
    Last edited by 15meter; 09-20-2020 at 08:14 AM.

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    "And I'm NOT going fo do a pound cast on the throat."

    Good for you. Many times too much of a "good thing" is done and recommended on forums. I prefer to do a cast with cerrosafe or paraffin wax. either tells me what I need to know. Many times with some rifles I just make do with what I have about like you are. Keep us posted?
    Larry Gibson

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    15meter, do your sized empties chamber?
    Just to throw another variable into loading the 400/360, there are two different rim thicknesses.
    The Purdey version had a thin rim. Other cases will not chamber in the ones for the thin rims.

    Also, a simple chamber/throat cast can be done with a little spray of lube (Pam cooking spray works) in the barrel and a hot glue gun.
    A bit soft to get precise measurements but still useful to see what you're dealing with.

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    First step was seat boolits deeper, still not chambering. Pulled decapping stem from f/l sizer. Case in until resistance than two bumps on the handle to get the neck started in. Back out and chamber perfectly.

    Apparently this rifle has a very tight throat. Just couldn't get the last 1/8" of the case down small enough with the seater die even though it had a visible roll crimp.

    Film tomorrow of the first 2 rounds blowing up milk jugs quite nicely if I can get the video to upload.

    KABOOM!

    And this is the Purdey version and I'm using Purdey marked Kynoch cases.

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    The reason for not coming close to this rifle with implements of mass destruction:

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    A little gun porn to go with your morning coffee.

    And not sure I can figure out how to upload the video, bummer, milk jugs dying a spectacular death is worth it.

    When I first posted the photo's they appeared just fine, went back in 4 hours later and would not display. Deleted and reloaded, hope they show up now.
    Last edited by 15meter; 09-21-2020 at 01:53 PM.

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    I wish you would post a picture of the rifle, would love to see it!
    Hell, I was there!

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