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Thread: HELP RF Firing pin Barely Hits Rim!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bent Ramrod View Post
    I proceed on the notion (true or not) that the original setup was more-or-less square and the only variable was wear on the parts as the lever was opened and shut, and the firing stress. In any case, with me it’s been cut-and-try.

    Stevens rifles were made to a price, and any hand-fitting on the 44 breech block would be too costly. It’s amazing how well they shoot, even as assembled. I have one wrecked 414 that had an oversized (or off-center forward) hole reamed in the breechblock and frame when I got it as a basket case. I made a slightly small pivot pin out of hardened drill-rod, set back and refitted the barrel, and then lapped the rear of the block and receiver shoulders to a close fit. It does shoot like a house afire, but that was a lot of work. Whether it’s cost-effective is certainly in the eye of the beholder.

    Weren’t those stress diagrams on the ASSRA site? I remember seeing them but can’t recall where.
    Right. Forgot where I was for a moment there.

    You did what I now do - let the breechblock float back into contact with the receiver shoulders, and proceed from there.

    I have never had, nor will I likely ever have, a really high grade one to mess about with. Others have said that they were better fitted, but I will never be able to confirm. On such matters hinges the fate of the world. I have noticed that my small sample of the 3-digit models seem to be better made and fitted. In fitting new link pins to a 108 I was surprised to find how much better the case hardening was, compared to the run-of-the-bog 44s. I actually had to pull out a carbide center-drill to break it before my drill would bite.
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    I have tightened up quite a few Stevens and H&A 22s that had come loose from wear. It may be a cheap shot but I use a reamer on one side by hand to true up the hole. Then drill through on drill press. Then use the shank of the bit for the pin. The worst cases I get are when previous owners bubba them badly enough holes have to be filled and redrilled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drm50 View Post
    I have tightened up quite a few Stevens and H&A 22s that had come loose from wear. It may be a cheap shot but I use a reamer on one side by hand to true up the hole. Then drill through on drill press. Then use the shank of the bit for the pin. The worst cases I get are when previous owners bubba them badly enough holes have to be filled and redrilled.
    I was thinking of using a drill bit as a pin also but I was worried that they could be to hard and snap? With the shock from firing or something? I'm not an expert at metallurgy or anything.
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    Drill shanks are in fact very tough, and make excellent pins, but drills usually cut a hole a couple-or-three thou bigger than the shank, so you start out of the blocks with the action still a bit loose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by uscra112 View Post
    Drill shanks are in fact very tough, and make excellent pins, but drills usually cut a hole a couple-or-three thou bigger than the shank, so you start out of the blocks with the action still a bit loose.
    That is very true, like I said it's somewhat of a cheap shot. I turn firing pins out of drill bit shanks too. A little heat treat with a torch and you are in business. Once in a while get one to hard and it snaps. Drill bits are like everything else, don't use cheap HWD store bits to make anything.

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    I might give this a shot one day soon... It seems to fire for now.

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