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Thread: Parker 10 gauge 4 frame 34" barrels

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    Those are the same four in all the pics above top is a 1889 Parker EH 10 gauge on a 2 frame 30" , next a circa 1890 Parker NH 10 gauge 3 frame 32" , second from bottom is a circa 1891 Parker EH 10 gauge with factory original 28" barrels and lastly at the bottom a circa 1899 Parker EH 10 gauge 3 frame 32" .

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    These two last pics are more recent at the top a circa 1902 Parker EH 10 gauge with factory original 34" barrels , then the 1899 32" from the above pic , then the 1889 30" from the above pic and at the bottom the 1891 28" that's pictured above . They made a very few EH 10's with factory original 26" barrels and fewer yet with factory original 24" barrels I'd really like to have one of each .

    The 34" is one of only 14 or so in the EH grade with 34" , the 28" EH is one of only 70 or so EH's with original 28" barrels . If I can find an EH with 26" barrels it's only about 16 or so of them made and the 24" EH they made less then 10 . So I doubt if I ever see an EH 26" or 24" much less acquire either !
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    Circa 1884 Parker Grade 2 10 gauge 3 frame with 32" .

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    Circa 1883 Parker Grade 0 10 gauge 2 frame 30" ,


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    Circa 1881 Parker Grade 2 10 gauge 3 frame 30" lifter gun ,

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    Circa 1881 Parker Grade 1 10 gauge 2 frame 30" lifter ,

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    I have a pair of Parker DH 10 gauges both made in 1889 . One is a 3 frame with 32" barrels that I just had the barrels redone , someone broke the stock years ago and restocked it . It was also rust blued barrels and action hence the reason I had the barrels refinished I'll eventually strip the action myself .

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    A pic of the DH from the Gunbroker auction where I purchased it .

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    I have the second Parker DH 10 gauge coming from the most recent Rock Island Auction and it's a 2 frame with 30" barrels in somewhat I think better shape . Still has the original stock and hasn't been rust blued .
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    Circa 1890 LC Smith Quality 2 10 gauge 30" barrels .

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    Circa 1881 W&C Scott 10 gauge that belonged to my maternal grandfather . First deer I ever plunked with buckshot much less handloaded buckshot . This one was with if memory serves 9 pellets of Hornady 00 pushed with 30 grains of SR7625 .

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    Here’s a pic of my Charles Daly $50 garage sale find before I sent it with my smith. It had one brazed hammer in tact and was pretty rusty. I cleaned and polished it. I soaked the action in oil to the triggers and hammer operational again. From what I researched it was made around 1890? Pretty plain with no fancy markings on it...maybe I polished them off? It’s a 2 7/8” SxS 10 gauge with Damascus barrels. If I remember the barrels are 32” or 34”. I think granny used it on the porch in every which way but loose!

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    I’d really like to start loading for this gun but need 10 gauge loading tools if anyone has any PM me. I’d like some all brass cases as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tripplebeards View Post
    I’d really like to start loading for this gun but need 10 gauge loading tools if anyone has any PM me. I’d like some all brass cases as well.
    Go to Track of the Wolf for brass cases . They are not inexpensive . I had thirty or so old brass WIN 10 gauge cases and sold/traded them to a friend . I find the nice new REM plastic hulls suit my needs just fine for birdshot , slugs , buckshot and Bismuth .
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    Watching I hope Drm50 can get the shotgun and give us an update on model
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    Quote Originally Posted by skeettx View Post
    Watching I hope Drm50 can get the shotgun and give us an update on model
    https://ithacagun.com/serial-numbers/
    One of these years I’ll eventually get an Ithaca NID Mag 10 to go with my NID Super 10 .
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    Quote Originally Posted by 6pt-sika View Post
    Go to Track of the Wolf for brass cases . They are not inexpensive . I had thirty or so old brass WIN 10 gauge cases and sold/traded them to a friend . I find the nice new REM plastic hulls suit my needs just fine for birdshot , slugs , buckshot and Bismuth .
    I have boxes of old plastic shells. I’ve had 4 browning golds and one pump on and off since the 90’s. I’m down to my National wild turkey federation edition 23” browning gold 10 gauge. I only use it for turkeys. It will throw a federal slug on the 10x to 75 yards with the factory full choke. Ridiculous accuracy, after that it wanders.

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    Thanks for posting the pics. How would you ever pic a favorite? Very nice!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wildflilghts View Post
    Thanks for posting the pics. How would you ever pic a favorite? Very nice!
    That’s very easy ! That W&C Scott that I inherited from my grandfathers estate . Not because of value but rather the fact that it was his and I’ve known it all my life . And that’s also the gun that started me down the cursed path of loading for damascus/twist guns with 2 7/8” 10 gauge LOL’s !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tripplebeards View Post
    I have boxes of old plastic shells. I’ve had 4 browning golds and one pump on and off since the 90’s. I’m down to my National wild turkey federation edition 23” browning gold 10 gauge. I only use it for turkeys. It will throw a federal slug on the 10x to 75 yards with the factory full choke. Ridiculous accuracy, after that it wanders.

    Be aware if you decide to start reloading and you use the hulls from “the old shells” back in the 60’s and further back REM used a different primer than a 209 it was also a slight bit smaller in diameter. I have some and have loaded them and you can get 209’s in the primer pockets but most will advise against it . Think it was a REM 57 primer that fit them .
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    All My shells are from 89’ and newer

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    This is a great thread for me as I am looking at an 1887 Parker in 10 gauge and really excited about the possibility of handloading 10 ga 2 7/8" shells. Can you please share some wisdom and experiences about smokeless low pressure loading for the "old time" 10? Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by quail4jake View Post
    This is a great thread for me as I am looking at an 1887 Parker in 10 gauge and really excited about the possibility of handloading 10 ga 2 7/8" shells. Can you please share some wisdom and experiences about smokeless low pressure loading for the "old time" 10? Thanks!
    I’ve got two basic loads I use . The first I got from a Ross Seyfried article in Handloaded twenty years ago , but it calls for SR7625 and you can’t get that anymore . Now I just happen to have 15-20 pounds of SR7625 I bought up after they quit selling it so I’m set . That load is for 1 1/4 ounce of shot and 30 grains of powder . I’ve adapted it to buckshot , slugs and Bismuth . I’ve even gone so far as making some 1 1/2 ounce loads with the same powder charge for turkey and of course some of the slugs I loaf are more than an ounce and a quarter . You can get the components for my other load using Red Dot , in that one I load 1 1/8 ounce shot pushed with 18.5-19 grains of powder . Also use the SP-10 wad with 2 or 3 16 gauge 1/8” card wads in the bottom of the shot cup I also unecisseraly use an overshot card under the folded crimp just to keep it flat . Anyway that 1 1/8 ounce load works great on skeet trap sporting dove and quail with low pressure and hardly any recoil . I have MEC 600 JR and a Sizemaster for the 10 gauge but I’ve about come to the conclusion if the creek don’t rise and the good Lords willing I’m gonna get a nice new Ponsness Warren LS-1000 10 gauge but set for 2 7/8” . I’ll still load buckshot slugs and Bismuth on the single stage press but the Red Dot stuff is rather do on a progressive . And if I get one I may even back the light load down to 1 ounce or even 7/8 ounce . Just to cut down on shot and big mouthed folks that say “you’re shooting a garbage can full of shot” . Now of course you can do the same thing with chamber inserts for 12 and 20 gauge shells but I just like loading those big green REM hulls .
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    Thanks so much! Great help for a new fella to the 10 ga fraternity. You answered many questions...P-W for a progressive loader, no more SR 7625 , 1 1/8 oz load with Red Dot, lighter loads for skeet etc... Any chance that any Hodgdon powders may fit? How about " The Royal Black", I am loading2 3/4 dr. Swiss FFg with 1 oz shot in roll crimped English loads for our 12 bore 1890 Parry Arms hammer gun with great results, 10 ga load? Thanks again...

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    Quote Originally Posted by quail4jake View Post
    Thanks so much! Great help for a new fella to the 10 ga fraternity. You answered many questions...P-W for a progressive loader, no more SR 7625 , 1 1/8 oz load with Red Dot, lighter loads for skeet etc... Any chance that any Hodgdon powders may fit? How about " The Royal Black", I am loading2 3/4 dr. Swiss FFg with 1 oz shot in roll crimped English loads for our 12 bore 1890 Parry Arms hammer gun with great results, 10 ga load? Thanks again...
    Some guys I know use Universal Clays . But those are s bit more stout . I don’t load any BP in a cartridge shotgun , nothing wrong if a person wants to I just don’t care to .
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    You realize a PW LS-1000 10 gauge is about $1300 now plus I think $50 at the factory to set it up 2 7/8” instead of 3 1/2” .
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    Ouch! Well, maybe I can find one at a yard sale...or maybe I'll just cough it up after the $ 10,900 for the Parker. Look at it this way; I don't play golf! I'm sure my wife will agree, don't you think? Thanks again, let me know if you can find data for Universal etc.

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