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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Frog View Post
    Attachment 244930Attachment 244931Attachment 244932Ask and ye shall receive, Mr Pressman! These pictures were taken a while back and were taken more to show the micrometer rotor than the #5, but you can see it's pretty rough. As best I have been able to determine, the rotor is an early example from MCRW.

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    That's pretty a cool setup. I've seen a few of these with the micrometer setup but I can't remember the name ... Culver maybe
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    Scott,I feel a little guilty dragging this thread so far afield, but since you were the OP...

    As best I’ve been able to research the story, Homer Culver developed his click micrometer rotor conversion for the Lyman #55 soon after the new version came out. The concept proved so popular that several other small companies produced their own version. Meanwhile, since there were still a lot of the old #5s out there at the time, Mr Culver converted at least one of those as well. I got my Culver Clone (a MCRW??) in a rather pedestrian #55 and was inspired to put it into an odd #5 body I happened to have. To be honest, I was just playing around to try and make something neat out of some left over parts, not meaning to fool anyone or commit a fraud on the collecting community.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Frog View Post
    Scott,I feel a little guilty dragging this thread so far afield, but since you were the OP...

    As best I’ve been able to research the story, Homer Culver developed his click micrometer rotor conversion for the Lyman #55 soon after the new version came out. The concept proved so popular that several other small companies produced their own version. Meanwhile, since there were still a lot of the old #5s out there at the time, Mr Culver converted at least one of those as well. I got my Culver Clone (a MCRW??) in a rather pedestrian #55 and was inspired to put it into an odd #5 body I happened to have. To be honest, I was just playing around to try and make something neat out of some left over parts, not meaning to fool anyone or commit a fraud on the collecting community.

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    No worries Froggie, lots of good information shared!

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    That looks good. I was wondering if you had a Schmitt conversion. I have the hot running wants for one of them.
    It is kind of nice that #5 and #55 parts interchange.
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    I'm not familiar with the Schmitt conversion. What makes it distinguishable from the other Culver Clones, and are there any identifying marks I can look for?

    The rotor assembly (and handle) can be interchanged, and the knocker didn't change until some time about the mid-70s. I like the one piece body and reservoir of the #5, but it makes it kinda tough to change anything. Also, you have to use the clamp since the little drop tube is so small in diameter, you can't use it for mounting.

    BTW, have you heard anything about Project 55 lately? Any chance of it coming back online any time soon?

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    Since I broached the subject of Ideal #5 measures in this thread, I thought I'd add this little tidbit, so apropos of nothing..

    While doing my usual scan of antique and vintage reloading tools on fleaBay, I found a listing for an Ideal #5 powder measure with a fairly low starting price. The pictures were sort of poorly done and the auction wasn't stirring up much interest, but I looked closely, and noticed that the offering was a #5 Micrometer rather than the standard model. I held my breath and crossed my fingers and put in a bid, then a slightly higher one, and lo and behold, I won!

    I have a special affection for these micrometer measures because they are the only ones I could find that measured 4759 pretty consistently... not perfectly, but as good as I could shoot offhand. Anyway, I always wanted to keep one and a spare, but now I actually have an extra to use for trade bait or whatever... it was just too good an opportunity to pass up. Yep, every once in a while even a blind hog finds an acorn.

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    You are a Winner, everyone loves a Winner.

    It is a great feeling to win one without getting a mortgage on the ranch.

    Congratulations.
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    The person selling it is apparently a beginner and sells all sorts of odd stuff they get from who-knows-where. Obviously they left a fair amount of shekels on the table by their lack of knowledge... but then again, that's why we buy stuff at auctions and tag sales, to get a potential bargain.

    The first #5M I got, about 25 or 30 years ago, was at a little gun show in Northern VA. It had a tiny tag on it with the number 23, which I assumed was a stock number for the seller. I held it up and pointed at the tag and he said 23 dollars since it doesn't have the original rotor. Yes, I said, that's too bad (as I snatched the cash out of my wallet before he could change his mind!)

    There have been others since then, but I doubt I'll ever beat that deal.

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    PS Scott, again I want to apologize for the hijack, but it's been too much fun to resist. I hope you'll forgive!
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    No worries Froggie, I like seeing new toys!!!

    I must have missed that auction, I've been watching the #5's for awhile, hoping to find a decent priced "Hew Haven" model.
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Abbreviations used in Reloading

BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
GC Gas Check